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Post by ZM on Sept 18, 2014 2:02:53 GMT
I think that attempting to get and improve on high scores is pretty neat, since it increases your Touhou skills. When I first 1cced IN, I wanted to reach a billion points, and it felt nice to be able to achieve that upon my second 1cc of it. As for UFO, it's currently the only game I play to get high scores consistently. My highest so far is 641,875,930 points on Easy with SanaeB, and I've been able to consistently reach over 600,000,000 points recently.
So what do you guys think?
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Post by Aki on Sept 18, 2014 2:06:51 GMT
I just do it for practise because drafts
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Post by Emeraldfox on Sept 18, 2014 2:16:55 GMT
Not really, I care about survival more. Scoring just seems like something that happens along the way.
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Post by Proto on Sept 24, 2014 0:25:40 GMT
I really don't like trying to get high scores because they involve abusing the scoring mechanisms of the Touhou games, which are often separate from how well you perform in that game. For example, Mountain of Faith's scoring system actively discourages auto-collection. Anyway, I don't track my growth through scoring, but rather through the resources that I have remaining.
Basically, losing lives/bombs is more important to me than getting lower scores.
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Post by Aisuko Lyrical on Sept 27, 2014 11:17:02 GMT
basically what Proto said
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Post by Frelia, nyu on Sept 27, 2014 13:50:09 GMT
Generally, score is a nice thing that just happens sometimes. I wouldn't really care about it unless you're competing with others (or yourself, if you have no more achievements to chase). It also depends on the game.
Games that I would look forward to a high score on: EoSD is the simplest in terms of scoring (Collect all blue boxes to win, don't die too much), so it's pretty alright. IN is pretty much just "don't die too much that you don't get enough Time" and "get all of Kaguya's Last Spells", you generally get a nice enough score. SA destroys your entire chances of scoring anything relevant if you die midgame (hello, Hell of Blazing Fires), but gives you the option of graze for autocollect and a multiplier. Simple, yet challenging. DDC just tells you to autocollect forever AND is the ONLY game that doesn't punish your score for dying or bombing, save for the game clear bonus (10M per life isn't something to sneeze at). Fun fun fun.
Games that I don't like scoring on: PCB demands perfect play with Cherry penalties on both life lost and bombs used, in addition to timing Cherry gain for maximum CherryMax. MoF actively discourages you from autocollect sometimes due to Faith management (it drains like crazy), plus kills a ton of your point value if you die.
Games that are lame to score on: TD forces you to use Trance on bosses if you want anything close to a good score. UFO doesn't care about what difficulty you play on, so it's a LOT easier to get a good Easy score than Normal+.
tl;dr Playing for score is dumb.
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Post by ZM on Sept 27, 2014 14:20:37 GMT
SA and MoF have the worst scoring systems, IMO. Especially SA. Oh, you died? Haha, fuck you and your point value.
And can someone explain to me MoF's system in depth? I still don't understand it even though I played the game multiple times. I just know that auto collecting is a nono.
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Post by Frelia, nyu on Sept 28, 2014 0:57:15 GMT
MoF scoring in a nutshell - You have a Faith gauge that will refill every time you kill something (small) or collect an item (large). - Periods of inactivity will drain this gauge (aka no items collected, trying to kill a big fairy really slowly, etc). - At 0%, your point value will rapidly decrease at 600/sec (if enemies on screen) or 10800/sec (if no enemies). - Bombing drains your Faith by 3000. Deathbombing removes this penalty. - Dying drains your Faith. Formula of your new meter is (Current - 50000), divided by 3. So it's a lot. - You can autocollect, just make sure that there are still enemies filing in to continue your Faith streak. Collect items one by one during periods of no enemies, usually during the stage title card, or before a boss spawns.
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ZM
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Post by ZM on Sept 28, 2014 1:04:04 GMT
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Post by ZM on Oct 4, 2014 18:30:27 GMT
Holy shit, that's a really high score.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 22:29:31 GMT
nah I'd say it's pretty low comparing to other scores on the uploader
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ZM
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Post by ZM on Oct 4, 2014 23:01:41 GMT
Still really impressive, mate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 23:05:06 GMT
Miles above us, if anything.
Scoring? well if it's for a tourney thing, or if they get you extra extends, then it matters. If not, i could go either way.
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Post by marv134 on Nov 5, 2014 22:41:49 GMT
I do it in EoSD for the extra lives and IN because IN has a fun scoring system. Camera game scoring seems fun, but I haven't played those much.
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Post by alzack13 on Nov 5, 2014 23:38:16 GMT
Except for the games where score gives you extra lives, I don't really pay attention to it. My overall goal is to 1cc all the Windows games (except PoFV) on all difficulties. Maybe if I ever complete that, I'll move on to scoring.
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ZM
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Post by ZM on Nov 5, 2014 23:47:47 GMT
How many games have you 1cced already?
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Post by alzack13 on Nov 5, 2014 23:50:10 GMT
I've 1cc'd every windows game (except PoFV) on normal. I did them in order, and I'm gonna go back and do hard pretty soon. I stream myself playing, if your interested in that. On that topic, is there a place for streaming threads?
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Post by ZM on Nov 5, 2014 23:51:27 GMT
Whoa, nice! I just have MoF and UFO 1cced on Normal, and I'm working on a TD Normal 1cc.
Yeah, just start one here in this subforum.
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Post by fluffy8x on Nov 6, 2014 0:48:59 GMT
I do so only for games I can easily beat on the given difficulties. Even in EoSD and MoF, I don't care much about score because you're not going to get more extends beyond 60m/110m anyway.
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Post by ZM on Jun 7, 2015 6:57:40 GMT
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