Royalty of House Scarlet
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 1, 2015 9:03:29 GMT
Due to the recent surge in user activity, and subsequent publishing of generally unnecessary threads pertaining to a simple question, I resolved that by publishing a thread that would answer various questions whether it pertained to Touhou canonically, chronology, forum-related conundrums, ect, would be more convenient and would provide clean-up for browsing the forum. I'm entirely uncertain as to the proper placement of this thread, if an administrator wishes to relocate this thread to its relevant position, please do so.
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ZM
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Arahitogami~
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Post by ZM on Aug 1, 2015 12:30:58 GMT
This is Touhou-related, right? Then this is its home!
Hit us up, Royalty my man.
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Old Shadow Account
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"Oh, so that's a 'strange incident'? Then I suppose I'm a mobile strange incident."
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Post by Old Shadow Account on Aug 1, 2015 12:36:56 GMT
This sounds like a wonderful thread Yo, I'm ready for anything
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Royalty of House Scarlet
Daughter of Coldharbour
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 1, 2015 15:44:57 GMT
After seeing a large amount of threads created simply for a single question, I decided to publish this one to clear up the congestion. Glad you approve.
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relick
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Post by relick on Aug 1, 2015 21:05:52 GMT
I have a question: is it hinted or explicitly stated anywhere how many people/youkai/creatures Yuuka has killed?
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Royalty of House Scarlet
Daughter of Coldharbour
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 1, 2015 22:01:14 GMT
There hasn't been an explicit or even estimated number, but suggesting her great age, it's likely a significant amount. It states that she doesn't hesitate to eliminate intruders when they trend upon her garden.
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ZM
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Post by ZM on Aug 1, 2015 22:12:51 GMT
Question: What would be a scenario you would think in which Letty would cause an incident?
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Royalty of House Scarlet
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 1, 2015 22:17:31 GMT
ZUN specifically states that her power, when enhanced with winter, seems seemingly impossible for a single youkai to perpetrate. ZUN, during a Q & A conference states her full power would indeed cause an incident. How exactly would one display such an incident would obviously be extreme wintry conditions.
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Post by ZM on Aug 1, 2015 23:55:01 GMT
Question: What's your opinion on Sakuya's backstory? Do you think she's a deity? A Lunarian? An orphan Remilia just picked up off the streets of the Human Village?
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Aki
Illusionist Crown
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Post by Aki on Aug 2, 2015 0:42:00 GMT
Question: What's your opinion on Sakuya's backstory? Do you think she's a deity? A Lunarian? An orphan Remilia just picked up off the streets of the Human Village? Hey look! A SDM question! Time to wall of text everyone~ I expect she is someone from the outside world due to her focus on Jack the Ripper. Her silver knives were specified to be silver for some reason*, leading me to believe she was an ex-vampire hunter (or has some kind of reason to hunt them at some point) who at some point turncoated for Remilia. or she can just be like Walter and is lying in wait to kill her.The theory I like best is that Sakuya was an orphan Remilia encountered in London at around the late 1800s as a result of Remilia leaving the vampire mansion. There is no indication to when Remilia got the SDM because while the legend of the "Scarlet Devil" is well known throughout Gensokyo and it's residents- People from the outside world are not clear about it, since none of us have known it before we got into touhou, despite Gensokyo supposedly running parallel to our world. After Remilia picked up Sakuya, I expect she was raised to help Remilia take a vampire mansion (for whatever reason Remilia had to use force for) and so seeing as their opponents were vampires Sakuya learnt to use silver knives. She also gave her spells are tricks names based off of Jack the Ripper for the sake of the fear effect and to convince herself killing (for Remi's sake) was alright. Alternatively, it could be to defend the SDM (which happened to be in London at the time) against intruders including non-human intruders, hence the necessity for silver (anti-impurity) knives. I like both theories and it explains why Sakuya would not have any qualms about making dinner for the vampires. Raising her from when she was very young would also explain her loyalty as well as her fixation on Jack the Ripper to convince herself killing her fellow humans (who are intruders) is inexcusable, because other humans (psychopaths) do it too. The mansion getting attacked or vice versa explains her using silver knives despite not fighting vampires (or other unholy beats) anymore**. *Note: Silver is one of the vampire weaknesses that Gensokyo's vampires are actually weak to. EDIT: ** I don't think I mentioned it explicitly, but I think Sakuya continued to use silver knives because she got used to their weight and balance and didn't want to bother using another type, which would need a lot more practice and steel is inferior in Gensokyo anyway because western monsters like Werewolves are, albeit rare, in existance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 1:26:58 GMT
I think I mostly agree with the vampire hunter theory, as well as the explanation that she was used to using silver knives already.
But to me she might as well be a deity
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Aki
Illusionist Crown
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Post by Aki on Aug 2, 2015 1:32:42 GMT
I think I mostly agree with the vampire hunter theory, as well as the explanation that she was used to using silver knives already. But to me she might as well be a deity But doesn't that make her a turncoat? Which I really dont think is a particularly positive trait, hence my favoured orphan theory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 1:41:11 GMT
I believe she was a vampire hunter, who was awed by Remilia's way of life or perhaps her power, and despite being a vampire, or something along those lines. Another possibility was that maybe she at a younger time for her, was defeated by Remilia, and expecting to die, instead got the offer to work for Remilia. Oh right, I also don't suspect she bacame a vampire hunter necessarily to hunt vampires, but rather, as a way to search for someone maybe?
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Aki
Illusionist Crown
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Post by Aki on Aug 2, 2015 1:46:20 GMT
I believe she was a vampire hunter, who was awed by Remilia's way of life or perhaps her power, and despite being a vampire, or something along those lines. Another possibility was that maybe she at a younger time for her, was defeated by Remilia, and expecting to die, instead got the offer to work for Remilia. Oh right, I also don't suspect she bacame a vampire hunter necessarily to hunt vampires, but rather, as a way to search for someone maybe? That would be very believeable theory if there was a vamp hunter training school that offers international travelling opportunities otherwise impossible to do on one's own. The reason she might stop searching coukd easily be that she outlived the person she was searching for. Nice headcanon! Although it is still strange that a human sakuya with traditional human values would be at all willing to follow Remilia's way of life. It would make sense however, if Remilia was the person she was searching for. Which would be another cool theory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 1:52:40 GMT
So Sumireko is the first president of the Sealing club. But who would be the other members? And how would Renko become a part of it, if Sumireko is going to inevitably become part of gensokyo? Would Renko be a cousin, or a sister of Sumireko?
Also, how does Eirin recognize Sakuya in IN (i recall Eirin saying something along the lines of "it's you!" in the Scarlet path)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 1:56:44 GMT
Perhaps Sakuya reminded Eirin of someone? For exapmple Konohanasakuyahime, who is related to Mokou's backstory, and who I think Sakuya is loosely based on.
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Royalty of House Scarlet
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 2, 2015 2:13:04 GMT
So Sumireko is the first president of the Sealing club. But who would be the other members? And how would Renko become a part of it, if Sumireko is going to inevitably become part of gensokyo? Would Renko be a cousin, or a sister of Sumireko? Also, how does Eirin recognize Sakuya in IN (i recall Eirin saying something along the lines of "it's you!" in the Scarlet path)? Renko is heavily implied to be a relative to Sumireko, which The Sealing Club's misadventures takes place slightly in the future, where Maribel distributes some frightening observations about the circumstances of the Outside World, including a pronounced absence of apparent happiness and a majority of native vegetation, which, when current Gensokyo supposedly runs moderately parallel to our own, implies that Renko is presumably a close relative. Currently, no members or even the existence of additional members have be revealed. Correct, Eirin does indeed recognize the presence of Sakuya, but their connection is never fully elaborated upon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 2:34:36 GMT
Is there ever a specific amount of time passed between each game? I know EoSD was "a short while" after MS, but what about the other games? I remember hearing that there was a year or so between each major incident (the main games), but i don't have a source. Can confirm/deny?
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Royalty of House Scarlet
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Aug 2, 2015 2:58:33 GMT
Is there ever a specific amount of time passed between each game? I know EoSD was "a short while" after MS, but what about the other games? I remember hearing that there was a year or so between each major incident (the main games), but i don't have a source. Can confirm/deny? This should provide you with the necessary information that you seek, with some additional information and Gensokyo's unique naming conventions. Of particular note, Gensokyo bases its time of the Lunar Calendar. en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Gensokyo_Timeline
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 5:11:56 GMT
Is there a reason Seija doesn't hear into the Underground during ISC, barring technical reasons or space limitations with the game itself?
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