STAFF LOGS FR
OM 10/19/2015 TO 11/04/2015
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Badges[10/23/2015 3:19:43 PM] Vincent ZM: "1) Do not give out any more badges. The system has now been nuked"
[10/23/2015 3:19:51 PM] Vincent ZM: Yeah, this rule serves no purpose anymore.
[10/23/2015 3:20:26 PM] Alzack13: Yep, now that there is the request system
[10/23/2015 3:20:46 PM] Vincent ZM: This is one of the general rules, so yeah, we'll scrap it entirely.
Staff Logs
[10/23/2015 3:38:00 PM] Vincent ZM: Hmm, did we announce the public logs before, Fera? I could've sworn we have.
Once we revise the CoC, we'll announce the public logs once more in a thread, too.
[10/23/2015 3:38:07 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: We have announced it.
[10/23/2015 3:38:11 PM] Alzack13: Why don't we make a thread for it?
[10/23/2015 3:38:22 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: eientei.boards.net/thread/630/staff-logs-dropbox
[10/23/2015 3:38:57 PM] Alzack13: it would be easier to access the thread, and updates would be easier to notice
[10/23/2015 3:39:15 PM] Alzack13: putting it in dropbox is kinda like hiding it in the D section of the newspaper
[10/23/2015 3:39:29 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: I suppose.
[10/23/2015 3:39:34 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: It'd also be easier for people to update.
[10/23/2015 3:39:34 PM] Vincent ZM: That would work.
[10/23/2015 3:39:37 PM] Alzack13: yeah
[10/23/2015 3:39:48 PM] Vincent ZM: Any one of us could update for sure.
On Staff Powers
[10/23/2015 3:45:48 PM | Edited 3:46:06 PM] Alzack13: on a slightly unrelated note, sometime in the future we should create a document detailing specific powers of admins/mods/assistants/etc
[10/23/2015 3:45:54 PM] Alzack13: if there isn't one already
[10/23/2015 3:46:02 PM] Vincent ZM: There's not, no.
[10/23/2015 3:46:40 PM] Alzack13: The Staff CoC details things that should be discussed, mostly, but not things we definitely can not do, or rare/arbitrary powers we do have access to
[10/23/2015 3:47:19 PM] Alzack13: Which is fine for a code of conduct, but an "enumeration of powers" would be useful for determining infractions as well.
[10/23/2015 3:47:34 PM] Alzack13: (We just did the constitution in US Gov, can you tell :V)
[10/23/2015 3:48:49 PM] Vincent ZM: Heh, my government teacher didn't teach me anything about government. And yet I passed the EoC. Huh.
[10/23/2015 3:49:07 PM] Alzack13: Anyways, we should specify that the removal of any staff member, regardless of placement on the chain of command, should go under review/discussion before promotion/removal.
On confidentiality of private chats
[10/23/2015 3:58:56 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: Private logs should only be given out with consent of both parties in the logs.
[10/23/2015 3:59:19 PM | Edited 3:59:24 PM] Alzack13: Even if it's damning evidence for something? The accused party wouldn't agree to sharing.
[10/23/2015 3:59:22 PM] Vincent ZM: (Talking to my sister, brb)
[10/23/2015 3:59:53 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: Logs can be forged.
[10/23/2015 4:00:21 PM] Alzack13: is there a way to forge the log bubble on PC skype?
[10/23/2015 4:00:42 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: Yep.
[10/23/2015 4:00:48 PM] Alzack13: inspectelement?
[10/23/2015 4:00:48 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: It's just a bit of XML is all.
[10/23/2015 4:01:49 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: So yeah, unless there's an independent third party that can verify the authenticity of the logs, then no, we can't accept one-sided logs.
[10/23/2015 4:02:40 PM] Alzack13: fair enough. But I do think that if it's obvious certain logs pertain to an issue, they can be important. But hopefully we can avoid that being a problem by keeping staff disputes to staff chats
[10/23/2015 4:03:21 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: I mean, I want to trust all the staff with their log sharing. But things have gotten a bit out of hand, so we're forced to make stricter rules on this.
[10/23/2015 4:03:45 PM] Alzack13: mhmm
[10/23/2015 4:04:04 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: If anyone wanted to bring up something, they can paraphrase anyway, and there's nothing we can do about that.
[10/23/2015 4:04:28 PM] Alzack13: So maybe we should make a point of urging staff members to talk in chats
Frelia, nyu （ -__-）
On Staff Activity[10/23/2015 4:10:32 PM] Alzack13: Maybe add a participation clause
[10/23/2015 4:11:27 PM] Alzack13: Just something to make sure the staff actually talks together
[10/23/2015 4:12:20 PM] Alzack13: Relick had a bit of a point in his rantings, moderators and admins should be doing their best to improve the forum, not just to maintain it
[10/23/2015 4:13:36 PM] Vincent ZM: Improve as in more activity and the like?
[10/23/2015 4:13:38 PM] Alzack13: not that we should push "ALWAYS INNOVATE ALL THE TIME" but don't ignore attempts to improve or review certain aspects of the forum
[10/23/2015 4:13:55 PM] Alzack13: improve like discuss rules, incidents, propose changes, etc
[10/23/2015 4:14:10 PM] Alzack13: something more than "watching for people to break rules" or "awaiting requests for something"
[10/23/2015 4:14:32 PM] Vincent ZM: Oh, so we have to be more proactive than we were before.
[10/23/2015 4:14:47 PM] Alzack13: even if it's merely taking part in staff meetings others have stock in
[10/23/2015 4:15:21 PM] Alzack13: I think proactivity is good, but don't try and force it. It's not a problem right now, actually, since there's only three of us :V. But if you're saying Arya didn't participate in staff meetings, then that's bad.
[10/23/2015 4:15:38 PM] Alzack13: I guess what I'm trying to say is
[10/23/2015 4:16:05 PM] Alzack13: "attendance in staff meetings is mandatory without a good excuse"
[10/23/2015 4:16:22 PM | Edited 4:16:24 PM] Alzack13: proactivity would be a good thing, but we don't need a rule stating that
[10/23/2015 4:17:07 PM] Vincent ZM: Yeah, that can just be mutually agreed between us all. XD
[10/23/2015 4:17:43 PM | Edited 4:17:51 PM] Alzack13: We just need a hokey poster on the wall near the water cooler :V
[10/23/2015 4:17:56 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: Change that to "scheduled staff meetings". Impromptu ones happen all the time and we're not on-call or anything ridiculous.
[10/23/2015 4:18:05 PM] Alzack13: oh, sure
Something Definitely Important[10/24/2015 9:20:55 PM] Alzack13: motion to add "Be excellent to one another" and "Rock on, dudes" to forum CoC
[10/24/2015 9:22:14 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: Accepted. Two thirds majority, let's roll
[10/24/2015 9:24:08 PM] Alzack13: dude, excellent
[10/24/2015 9:24:43 PM] Aki Shimoka: I agree too. But I'm just a filthy peasant.
[10/24/2015 9:25:27 PM] Frelia, nyu （ -__-）: go do our bidding, filthy peasant, organize the masses so that they may provide us with thematic decorations for the castle
[10/24/2015 9:26:12 PM] *** Alzack13 throws shekels at Aki ***
Removing stuff from Ongoing events[10/29/2015 4:53:11 PM] Alzack13: WriCom has been done, kill
[10/29/2015 4:53:22 PM] Alzack13: Fibbage has been over, kill
[10/29/2015 4:53:48 PM] Alzack13: Dani's RP is ongoing but not accepting new people iirc. It can stay, I guess
[10/29/2015 4:54:00 PM] Alzack13: Spellcard request is (Believe or not) still alive
[10/29/2015 4:54:03 PM] Alzack13: so stay
[10/29/2015 4:54:13 PM] Alzack13: the pokemon league tournament?
[10/29/2015 4:54:28 PM] Alzack13: >last post Sep 6
[10/29/2015 4:54:29 PM] Alzack13: yeah nah
There's a bunch of discussion about some other potential staff positions, staff heirarchy, and other inter-staff stuff, but the ones not mentioned here were more or less shelved or denied. Like i said in the post, if you'd like to discuss some of these things please contact a staff member. Also, Aki is in the chat as a sort of advisor, because it probably isn't a good idea to make a smaller and newer staff handle previously decided on rules and processes alone. He is not part of the staff.
