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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 12, 2015 22:58:21 GMT
Look at the other official art of Yukari and see that she isn't a loli
Something else I just thought about now: Eiki and Komachi's portrait are about the same height. Komachi wears a high geta. Eiki wears flats. If Komachi removed her geta, she would shorter than Eiki.
WHOSE TALLER NOW?
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Post by Syaro on Nov 13, 2015 7:11:11 GMT
She still doesn't look like a big titted monster to me in IN, and other than that, she doesn't have any official portrait art. Unless she has some for StB and ISC; I wouldn't know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 12:06:09 GMT
Look at the other official art of Yukari and see that she isn't a loli Something else I just thought about now: Eiki and Komachi's portrait are about the same height. Komachi wears a high geta. Eiki wears flats. If Komachi removed her geta, she would shorter than Eiki. WHOSE TALLER NOW? Eiki. But in the M1 Grand Prix, Eiki appears to be a loli and Komachi is more taller than her. Also, I guess ZUN actually drew Komachi with a big chest in POFV, or shes just chubby... en.touhouwiki.net/images/e/e5/Th09KomachiOnozuka.png
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Post by jpsuperplayer on Nov 13, 2015 12:27:50 GMT
Murasa was a boatgirl created to destroy all boatgirls before the boatgirls even existed. Yeah this bugs me too. Just let the cute girls be cute :<. Nope, even in ISC ZUN denies her breasts. Pretty sure that's the same art as IN actually. i.imgur.com/51V2PaG.png
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Post by Zak on Nov 13, 2015 13:07:06 GMT
ISC uses a lot of old assets, yes for the characters. Hell the characters arrive in the same manner as they did in their older games (Seiga comes in and does a twirl, Sanae comes in from the side, etc.)
Also FUCKIN MIMA WHAT.
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Post by jpsuperplayer on Nov 13, 2015 22:40:46 GMT
Well yeah, she's the main character isn't she?
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 14, 2015 4:54:04 GMT
Have you just ignored the official art I just showed
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Post by jpsuperplayer on Nov 14, 2015 12:34:46 GMT
Have you just ignored the official art I just showed I didn't see it. I looked back and I still don't see it. Did you forget to post it?
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 14, 2015 18:48:14 GMT
Oh whoops, I was thinking of a different topic. Here is one. Here is another. Another. Yet another. And this is all official art too. You see where I'm getting here? It all depends on the artistic interpretation.
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Post by Syaro on Nov 14, 2015 20:14:56 GMT
Are you seriously posting SWR/soku art and claim that to be official? And then a bunch of fanart with official storylines?
Son, those aren't canon. This is all essentially fanart with ZUN's stories. That shit doesn't count. The only canon art is ZUN's, everything else is fanart. All of it.
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 15, 2015 3:33:40 GMT
Are you seriously trying to say they aren't canon because they weren't drawn by ZUN?
Did you know that ZUN is the one that gives these manga artists guidelines and make sure they're drawn to his standards?
For instance, alphes likes to draw his women voluptuous and curvy, but as you can see none of his character portraits are really like that in IaMP/SWR/Soku.
Fanart with ZUN stories? Once again, ZUN is the one who approved of this art, and was okay with their art being used with his story, essentially making this art canon.
And lastly, the point I was making is 'how the character looks is mostly up to your interpretation'. Did you also know ZUN wants you to make your own 'Gensokyo'? Did you know that ZUN is vague on purpose so that the lines inbetween can be filled to what you desire? Did you even read my last comment? Can you sound even more rude?
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Post by MauserZGK on Nov 15, 2015 6:36:06 GMT
A 'yes' from a drunk person is not consent. Yet another one of those things i have the courts word for xD
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Post by Syaro on Nov 15, 2015 14:06:08 GMT
Are you seriously trying to say they aren't canon because they weren't drawn by ZUN? Did you know that ZUN is the one that gives these manga artists guidelines and make sure they're drawn to his standards? For instance, alphes likes to draw his women voluptuous and curvy, but as you can see none of his character portraits are really like that in IaMP/SWR/Soku. Fanart with ZUN stories? Once again, ZUN is the one who approved of this art, and was okay with their art being used with his story, essentially making this art canon. And lastly, the point I was making is 'how the character looks is mostly up to your interpretation'. Did you also know ZUN wants you to make your own 'Gensokyo'? Did you know that ZUN is vague on purpose so that the lines inbetween can be filled to what you desire? Did you even read my last comment? Can you sound even more rude? [Citation needed] It's pretty funny how mad you get over this, btw.
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 16, 2015 0:21:04 GMT
en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Alphes#Additional_Informationen.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Characters/Abilities#The_meaning_of_.22.E7.A8.8B.E5.BA.A6.E3.81.AE.E8.83.BD.E5.8A.9B.22 en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Canon#Doujin_Works Look at this one in particular.
"ZUN collaborates with established doujinshi circles and artists to illustrate his official print works and games. However, even if an artist or circle has worked with the Touhou Project, other works by the same circle in which ZUN did not participate are non-canon. For example, Aki★Eda is the artist for the official Touhou manga Silent Sinner in Blue, but the storylines she introduces in her self-produced doujinshi, such as the Alice x Patchouli pairing in the Plastic Heart series, shouldn't be considered canon." You know what this means? That means that the artistic works collaborated with ZUN are guess what? Canon. Here is some more logic for you, a manga artist may draw art for the story maker. Since the art is merely an interpretation of the story, that means the art is canon because the story maker approved of the art. If the story maker decided to switch artists, does that mean that the art is any less canon? No, unless he decides to retcon that storyline. If the story maker himself decided to draw his own works, and then later decided to have someone else draw his own stories, are you saying that the art isn't canon because it wasn't drawn by the story maker? Wouldn't you also be basically denying the canonocity of the story too? You're saying it's just fanworks but with ZUN story, but ZUN himself went to these people and had them officially published under his name. Any fan can take the story of ZUN and draw pictures on top of it. The difference is ZUN got these guys, and gave them the okay. He spoke directly to them, he oversaw their art and gave them guidelines and made sure these artists drew things to his 'image'. These are OFFICIAL print works. Oh, but ZUN is a drunkard so it doesn't matter right? Still don't believe me? There's also references on the 3rd link. No one's mad, I just have a problem with the way you're coming off. It was rude, and you know good and well that was. Where's your proof that only ZUN's art is canon then? Did ZUN himself say that? That's your own interpretation, which all fits in with ZUN's 'having your own Gensokyo'. Which contradicts what you said, pretty much.
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Post by MauserZGK on Nov 16, 2015 6:14:23 GMT
Alright kids, time to relax and settle this dispute the only way that truly matters. Y'all should know what i'm talking about.
POAST YOU ARE SCORES!!!
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Post by cream on Nov 17, 2015 0:54:08 GMT
I agree. The highest score is the most canon thing.
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Post by alzack13 on Nov 17, 2015 2:50:06 GMT
Alright kids, time to relax and settle this dispute the only way that truly matters. Y'all should know what i'm talking about. POAST YOU ARE SCORES!! I agree. The highest score is the most canon thing. Please don't derail the thread. Keep posts in threads outside Suika's Tavern relevant to the topic, or as contributions to relevant posts. Thanks!
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Nov 17, 2015 5:09:06 GMT
Who even cares about scores anyway
How in the world does an entire lake just move to Gensokyo and on top of a mountain?
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