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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 16:32:41 GMT
 With a lot of prayer to the RNGod, a few whiteouts and a Sendai carry these can reach Glacia. If my luck sucks Sidney's Yumeko and ALilyBlack can stop me cold. |
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Post by Zak on Mar 5, 2015 17:54:20 GMT
I think the champion has around level 70 so you should be fine i think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 20:00:07 GMT
I think the champion has around level 70 so you should be fine i think. I'm afraid I'm not. Too many battles are an unstable equilibrium or require sacrifices (I'm looking at you, ALilyBlack). |
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Post by ZM on Mar 5, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
Grind up to 70.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 20:30:48 GMT
What is wrong with my team? It can't grind in Victory Road. If someone misses, they're dead meat. This is not conductive to XP gains. In the mean time, I'm having to grind at the Sky Pillar while dealing with PP shortages because the nearest Puppet Center is in Pacifidlog a Surf away. -.-
And apparently no one had any trouble in it. There's got to be something wrong.
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Post by Old Shadow Account on Mar 5, 2015 20:41:29 GMT
Maybe you're focusing too much
Maybe your team is unbalanced
Not sure
Or ask Fernet himself
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 20:43:26 GMT
Is a 5 level difference "focusing too much" in a single puppet? Defensively, that's a very real possibility. It was built with some help from Proto, focusing on offensive coverage. Let's see if he'll listen. Yo Fernet! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 0:51:33 GMT
I lost my desire to play Purple. The endgame only wants you dead. Why else would there be in Victory Road: - Youkis capable of one-hit-kills on mons of similar level
- Meiras with Extremespeed
- Tenshis with Fissure and Drawn Line
and in the E4: - Pinch berries out the wazoo
- Quick Claws
- Way too fast mons
Plus I'm utterly furious with envy over all these people that sweep it with single mons. You mean I spent 95 hours doing research for nothing? I must be inferior, it's the only explanation. At least I'm holding back the desire to be psychotically spiteful, hacking a XUtsuho for myself, stopping trainer actions, and simply nuking the entire Puppet League from orbit, laughing maniacally all the way... BECAUSE GUYS LOOK I CAN WALK ALL OVER THE E4 MYSELF TOO HAHAHAAAA AAAAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAH (insane Shion laughter) If this is my idea of "fitting in", then I have some severe self-esteem problems. |
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Post by Zak on Mar 6, 2015 0:55:54 GMT
Youre usig items right?
And i'm gonna be honest, i lucksacked my way through the Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 0:58:08 GMT
Youre usig items right? And i'm gonna be honest, i lucksacked my way through the Champion. Yes, I am, but only inbetween trainers as I don't have any reliable status to use as I revive mons mid-battle. |
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Post by Old Shadow Account on Mar 6, 2015 1:00:52 GMT
I lost my desire to play Purple. The endgame only wants you dead. Why else would there be in Victory Road: - Youkis capable of one-hit-kills on mons of similar level
- Meiras with Extremespeed
- Tenshis with Fissure and Drawn Line
and in the E4: - Pinch berries out the wazoo
- Quick Claws
- Way too fast mons
Plus I'm utterly furious with envy over all these people that sweep it with single mons. You mean I spent 95 hours doing research for nothing? I must be inferior, it's the only explanation. At least I'm holding back the desire to be psychotically spiteful, hacking a XUtsuho for myself, stopping trainer actions, and simply nuking the entire Puppet League from orbit, laughing maniacally all the way... BECAUSE GUYS LOOK I CAN WALK ALL OVER THE E4 MYSELF TOO HAHAHAAAA AAAAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAH (insane Shion laughter) If this is my idea of "fitting in", then I have some severe self-esteem problems. utterly disgusting but whatever, what makes you beat the game isn't my thing to decide |
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Mar 6, 2015 1:29:10 GMT
I lost my desire to play Purple. The endgame only wants you dead. Why else would there be in Victory Road: - Youkis capable of one-hit-kills on mons of similar level
- Meiras with Extremespeed
- Tenshis with Fissure and Drawn Line
and in the E4: - Pinch berries out the wazoo
- Quick Claws
- Way too fast mons
Plus I'm utterly furious with envy over all these people that sweep it with single mons. You mean I spent 95 hours doing research for nothing? I must be inferior, it's the only explanation. At least I'm holding back the desire to be psychotically spiteful, hacking a XUtsuho for myself, stopping trainer actions, and simply nuking the entire Puppet League from orbit, laughing maniacally all the way... BECAUSE GUYS LOOK I CAN WALK ALL OVER THE E4 MYSELF TOO HAHAHAAAA AAAAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAH (insane Shion laughter) If this is my idea of "fitting in", then I have some severe self-esteem problems. Those three things you mentioned, are all Level up moves. Trust me, it isn't bad. Fissure Tenshi should be no problem if you have a pokemon of equal or higher level. Youki has 135 base attack, it's nothing unusual. You have Sendai, she can easily take care of Youki. In fact, Sendai should be able to easily take on most of the Elite Four. Here's another thing I learned about the Purple Elite Four - It's very nice to faith type puppets, but very mean to reason puppets (particularly Dark Alice). Quick Claws are obnoxious in any aspect. So I feel your pain. The pinch berries are eh. You have to be able to deal accordingly with it. Way too fast mons? Not that big of a deal outside of Youki really. When I beat the Elite Four, my dolls were at an average level of 72, so I really think that would help. It works like that in Pokemon games, and it works like that here too. Difference being that it's more difficult. I'm actually gonna replay this game soon. |
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Mar 6, 2015 1:30:37 GMT
I lost my desire to play Purple. The endgame only wants you dead. Why else would there be in Victory Road: - Youkis capable of one-hit-kills on mons of similar level
- Meiras with Extremespeed
- Tenshis with Fissure and Drawn Line
and in the E4: - Pinch berries out the wazoo
- Quick Claws
- Way too fast mons
Plus I'm utterly furious with envy over all these people that sweep it with single mons. You mean I spent 95 hours doing research for nothing? I must be inferior, it's the only explanation. At least I'm holding back the desire to be psychotically spiteful, hacking a XUtsuho for myself, stopping trainer actions, and simply nuking the entire Puppet League from orbit, laughing maniacally all the way... BECAUSE GUYS LOOK I CAN WALK ALL OVER THE E4 MYSELF TOO HAHAHAAAA AAAAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAH (insane Shion laughter) If this is my idea of "fitting in", then I have some severe self-esteem problems. Those three things you mentioned, are all Level up moves. Trust me, it isn't bad. Fissure Tenshi should be no problem if you have a pokemon of equal or higher level. Youki has 135 base attack, it's nothing unusual. You have Sendai, she can easily take care of Youki. In fact, Sendai should be able to easily take on most of the Elite Four. Here's another thing I learned about the Purple Elite Four - It's nice to faith type puppets (particularly well for Tech Sanae), but very mean to reason puppets (particularly Dark Alice). Quick Claws are obnoxious in any aspect. So I feel your pain. The pinch berries are eh. You have to be able to deal accordingly with it. Way too fast mons? Not that big of a deal outside of Youki really. When I beat the Elite Four, my dolls were at an average level of 72, so I really think that would help. It works like that in Pokemon games, and it works like that here too. Difference being that it's more difficult. I'm actually gonna replay this game soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 1:38:28 GMT
How high level does she have to be? 100? She can't take on even Sidney alone at level 70. Sendai does not a team constitute when alone, no matter how broken she is in competitive.
Outspeed and one-shot before the berry can act? Not easy whe you're dealing with nigh-perfect mons with 110+ Spd.
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Post by Kaguya Houraisan on Mar 6, 2015 1:39:42 GMT
Here's an update for ya
Phoebe's HKeine has Brightpowder
Yumeko has quick claw
SFlan has scope lens
A noticeable number of puppets in the E4 have scope lens and pinch berries in fact.
If you really have a problem with them, you may need to switch some moves for priority. AdMokou can learn Mach Punch, Sendai can learn rock bullet, TByakuren can learn E-speed.
Your team is also pretty hyper offensive and quite squishy outside of Sendai. If Sendai dies, you have no tank anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 1:40:55 GMT
All three already learned.
They're too weak to kill healthy things, though
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Post by Fernet on Mar 6, 2015 1:56:20 GMT
Astute observations. Typically, the final bosses in RPGs are meant to be challenging, yes.
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Post by Zak on Mar 6, 2015 1:58:39 GMT
Give Sendai Curse.
It boosts Defense and Attack, and it cuts Speed but youre spamming a priority move anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 1:59:14 GMT
Give Sendai Curse. It boosts Defense and Attack, and it cuts Speed but youre spamming a priority move anyways. She's already running Curse/Rock Bullet/Earthquake/Sacred Fire |
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Post by Doesnt on Mar 6, 2015 2:20:59 GMT
Your team does look disadvantaged against Sidney specifically; you'll need to step carefully against him as you've got a host of things that are either killed by Dark or don't operate well against him. Once you're past him though, you should be good; you're stacked with anti-Heart stuff, and AdMokou and AKazami blow up Glacia if used right. (If HKeine is a problem, slap Toxic on someone with a free moveslot to remove her)
Drake is where things get dicier as he's got two powerful Darks (Salamence), but conservative Sendai use should get you past those. The rest can be brute forced by your very powerful in-game team (seriously everything there is post-Norman).
The champion is an obstacle for pretty much every team, as you'd expect the final boss to be. I'll leave it to you to figure out how you're getting past him, because you have a rather glaring weakness to one of his mons.
Looking over your posts it looks like you're expecting to not have to heal between fights; this is a Bad Idea if you want to win, as sacrificing mons for momentum is kind of important in this game. I would also advise being aware of how priority moves work; you shouldn't expect things to instantly drop from them, you use them to snipe injured stuff. Trainers in Purple never use healing items; take advantage of this. If all else fails, the game doesn't stop *you* from using them, so if you're willing to suck up your pride you can try dropping some Hyper Potions and Revives mid-battle.
Also, the only Quick Claw in endgame is on Sidney's Yumeko, because he's a cheating punk.
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