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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 14:48:23 GMT
Well, this question is a bit strange by myself, because I don't know any Touhou parts except for IN.
However this game features a boss, which really kicks my ass every time: Marisa Kirisame
I always have trouble to dodge the star showers. I can realize the pattern, but the showers are so fast that I'm too slow to dodge them in time. Furthermore the large range laser attack combined with the star showers makes this bossfight even harder for me.
I always lose 4-5 lives in the fourth stage against her, so she always ruins my IN runs. Although I've faced her so many times yet, I still have couldn't master this bossfight.
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Post by Minako (Eris) on Dec 17, 2015 15:54:10 GMT
Mari Normal is Satan, Shou I find tough too. I'll put the one I find hardest from each stage soon.
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Post by vexoftheabyss on Dec 17, 2015 16:28:27 GMT
Evil Eye Sigma from SoEW and his freaking, holy wubstorm which destroys everything in it's path.
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Post by Zigzagwolf on Dec 17, 2015 22:02:06 GMT
First of all, I want to note this is entirely subjective so obviously this differs per person.
Second, I'd personally say that Junko is actually, but not for the good reasons.
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 17, 2015 22:36:34 GMT
If you meant every Touhou then Yukari in IaMP (cheapest fite ever) If you meant shmups, it depends on the playstyle actually. In my opinion, Junko is the hardest boss pattern-wise, she got a ton of micrododging (which is painful), Koishi is pretty hard too, still haven't beat her. Eiki is also a pretty tuff one, she becomes very cheap, spams the hell out of attack and magically dodges almost everything and unless you use Medicine, you're gonna have a bad time with her. Didn't fight Lunatic Byakuren, but from what I have seen she's pretty strong too. Still haven't beat Lunatic Yuuka/Okuu/Remilia/Kanako/Yukari/Eirin/Kaguya/Miko, I can't really judge those ones.
But we all know the hardest "boss" is the Yin-Yang orb in HRtP
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Post by ZM on Dec 17, 2015 23:47:34 GMT
Junko's ridiculous.
Moving this thread into Reimu's Shrine since it's gameplay-related.
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Post by Glaceon Mage on Dec 18, 2015 10:32:55 GMT
Clownpiece is cheaper than Junko, what with no-lag lasers and such.
Junko is quite hard, but at least she's not cheap like Clownpiece.
As far as Ex bosses go, I can't say since I've only gotten far enough to judge in around 7 of them. Of those 7 (Ran, Yukari, Mokou, Suwako, Nue, Mamizou, Raiko) Raiko is likely the hardest pattern-wise, but also among the most generous with resources.
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Post by LNN Keeper on Dec 18, 2015 10:37:39 GMT
For survival purposes? Junko, Kagerou, Remilia, Byakuren.
Junko in particular has some really crazy random stuff that requires either a lot of luck or expert dodging skill to consistently manage. The first non is stupid and tight and even though it's mostly easy, can still catch you at the worst times (i.e. Gobou's 1MNB from a while back). Her first spell is simple sure. The second non isn't even too bad unless she's close to a wall, forcing you to go higher up. The second spell is absurdly stupid because it seems that you can get walled when you're in the corners. I've seen LNN runs and Collet's WR run speedkill it by dodging in the middle of the laser. That's just completely ridiculous and I have no clue how they manage it on such risky runs. Her third non can be nasty if she moves down. The third spell I don't even fully understand, but I've seen it do weird things. The fourth nonspell can just randomly kill you at times even when you think you're safe. The fourth spell is ZUN's being lazy and completely filler. The curvy laser spell is really complex and depends on where the laser waves aim, but it can be quite ridiculous at times. The timeout is easy. And then the final spell, which is just completely ridiculous and I shouldn't even have to comment on it.
Kagerou is probably the hardest boss in DDC, in my opinion, if you take way the glorious homing shots. Her nons are all very wonky and can give awkward situations. The midboss spell is completely ridiculous in the sense that you're supposed to do some quick misdirecting while damaging very tight ice needles and still being able to damage her between misdirections. Some of the dodging can become quite YOLO. The first spell is very tough if you stay in the center to damage rush, since it can pretty much throw a wall in the center. The second spell is completely ridiculous to the point that homing shots just dodge in the middle and end it off in one way rather than going to the corners (like I think you're intended too). You don't have much time to react and it's so random that you can either be really safe or just thrown a clump of weird, fast, and angled glowshit. The third spell is particularly obnoxious because of the red bullets that interfere with the purple bullets while you're in one of the bottom corners. I think even Seija is a little easier than her even with reversed controls.
Remilia is also pretty random to the point where you can get really nasty situations on Vampire Illusion, Scarlet Meister, and Scarlet Gensokyo.
Byakuren is among the lighter of these bosses, but she's still pretty solid with that first spell and Devil's Recitation (I still, to this day, have yet to understand how to even approach DR).
Other honorable mentions are Sakuya with her batshit nons and Killing Doll, Clownpiece for the wonky hitboxes and tight nonspells. Doremy for that stupid first non (And then the following nons that depend on how high she is on screen). Shou with her first spell and second non combo, and Kaguya for having an array of fairly difficult RNG patterns.
For scoring purposes? Er... I'm only really experienced in PCB so no comment. Considering all the factors like different game mechanics and such, it'd be hard to name one individually.
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Post by tomatokun on Dec 18, 2015 13:05:05 GMT
Kaguya for wrecking countless scorerun attempts ;_;
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Post by cream on Dec 18, 2015 18:26:23 GMT
Rumia on easy mode is the hardest boss. I can't even see the bullets!
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Post by alzack13 on Dec 18, 2015 19:04:50 GMT
Mmm, I'd say Byakuren. Her fight is hard as shit, but I thought it was pretty fun as well.
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Post by Pikno on Dec 18, 2015 20:05:35 GMT
I have to say, I dipise Reimu on Normal mode, I just seem to die to her all the time...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 20:15:55 GMT
Mmm, I'd say Byakuren. Her fight is hard as shit, but I thought it was pretty fun as well. I'd say the same. I hate her Star Maelstrom spellcard. I can't even do it on Easy Mode..
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Post by MauserZGK on Dec 19, 2015 4:09:08 GMT
Depends on who i'm rusty on that day.
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Post by Zigzagwolf on Dec 19, 2015 11:20:47 GMT
TOUHOU IS REALLY HARD!?!1!1!11!!1!
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Post by jpsuperplayer on Dec 19, 2015 14:47:56 GMT
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