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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 23:45:21 GMT
Cream's autism thread is verging on being a mixed ASD and depression thread, both of which are already pretty sensitive subjects, so I'm making this.
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AngelG No. 55
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Post by AngelG No. 55 on Oct 9, 2015 23:51:47 GMT
I have both things, so I'll post in both threads.
I've been depressed for officially almost 4 years now. I'm finally starting to get up from typical depressed idleness and uncertainty about the future... but setbacks like the cheating incident still affect me negatively - and strongly.
Everyone should read up on depression and autism, and learn how to cope with us properly instead of forcing us to adequate ourselves to certain standards of normalcy that aren't ours. The "you're noto a special snowflake" argument simply holds no weight - we ought to be handled in a different manner.
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Post by alzack13 on Oct 10, 2015 2:11:29 GMT
I have both things, so I'll post in both threads. I've been depressed for officially almost 4 years now. I'm finally starting to get up from typical depressed idleness and uncertainty about the future... but setbacks like the cheating incident still affect me negatively - and strongly. Everyone should read up on depression and autism, and learn how to cope with us properly instead of forcing us to adequate ourselves to certain standards of normalcy that aren't ours. The "you're noto a special snowflake" argument simply holds no weight - we ought to be handled in a different manner. I think the first step toward getting out of this depression is doing the research yourself, and letting us know what we should do. Make this teamwork, not just us "handling you".
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AngelG No. 55
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Post by AngelG No. 55 on Oct 10, 2015 2:20:33 GMT
I have both things, so I'll post in both threads. I've been depressed for officially almost 4 years now. I'm finally starting to get up from typical depressed idleness and uncertainty about the future... but setbacks like the cheating incident still affect me negatively - and strongly. Everyone should read up on depression and autism, and learn how to cope with us properly instead of forcing us to adequate ourselves to certain standards of normalcy that aren't ours. The "you're noto a special snowflake" argument simply holds no weight - we ought to be handled in a different manner. I think the first step toward getting out of this depression is doing the research yourself, and letting us know what we should do. Make this teamwork, not just us "handling you". What makes you think I'm not doing any of it? What exactly makes you think I've been sitting on my ass for ~4 years hoping for depression to go away? No, I'm already doing my part; you just aren;t aware of it.
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Post by relick on Oct 10, 2015 2:53:14 GMT
I think the first step toward getting out of this depression is doing the research yourself, and letting us know what we should do. Make this teamwork, not just us "handling you". What makes you think I'm not doing any of it? What exactly makes you think I've been sitting on my ass for ~4 years hoping for depression to go away? No, I'm already doing my part; you just aren;t aware of it. What Alzack doesn't want, and others too, is that we have to find out for ourselves where your boundaries are, and what you're comfortable with etc. by testing and prodding. Yes, it's unfair that you're depressed, and it's also unfair that you're autistic, but as with all things in life you can't expect that it is other's responsibility entirely to treat you special. If you want to have a good relationship with your friends then you need to do your part just as others do theirs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 3:05:37 GMT
Let's not make this another "Angel you just aren't understanding us/You guys just aren't understanding me" topic, perhaps? One thread's been locked, another thread's currently being discussed how Angel or whomever could improve, importing it here just further complicates matters. That all said, helping yourself through depression is certainly a team effort. Everyone has boundaries. There's no harm in cutting out the muddle man and stating comfort zones, issues, etc.
Beyond that, it's murkier.
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Post by alzack13 on Oct 10, 2015 3:42:04 GMT
I wasn't implying that you weren't doing anything, my point is that it's not our duty to do all of this for you, on our own. You say you've been doing this, and that's fantastic, but let us know! The fact that we haven't seen any of it is a problem in itself, which can easily be fixed.
Being brutally honest, I don't really have the time to go and research all of this myself. If you could provide links, websites, tips, etc on how you think we should be acting with you, that would be awesome. Just telling us to figure it out doesn't help US help YOU very much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 3:59:26 GMT
I wasn't implying that you weren't doing anything, my point is that it's not our duty to do all of this for you, on our own. You say you've been doing this, and that's fantastic, but let us know! The fact that we haven't seen any of it is a problem in itself, which can easily be fixed. Being brutally honest, I don't really have the time to go and research all of this myself. If you could provide links, websites, tips, etc on how you think we should be acting with you, that would be awesome. Just telling us to figure it out doesn't help US help YOU very much. Here are some resources. Beyond that it varies drastically. It might be MDD or dysthymia, or others. The thing about this is that, beyond general guidelines - feelings of hopelessness, exceptional loss of appetite, increased irritability, tendency to blame one's self are all notable symptoms - it's far easier to understand stuff like I've linked and then note the shades of grey in between. Never mind how each person's depression manifests itself differently (Cream, for example, copes with shmups). Cream is different from AGN, and so forth.
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Post by MauserZGK on Oct 10, 2015 17:04:04 GMT
Your first link is broken.
Also, good luck to any depressed people in here. Idk if i ever truly had it, but I believe I may for a duration of years and whatever that was, it sure sucked and i wouldn't want anyone to deal with it.
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Post by LNN Keeper on Oct 10, 2015 17:13:03 GMT
I've had extremely low self-esteem and depression for years.
Touhou has always been my way to ease the pain. By getting achievements I feel this rush of positive energy and adequacy that I otherwise don't have. So I always strive for more and more achievements to get that "rush" and sense of satisfaction for the hard work I put in. I am also a heavy eater and tend to not like going outside much.
One of my favorite past times is feeling sorry for myself and shoveling myself with food. Sometimes if I'm really upset I will play music and cry during it to release the pain. (It's my way of "cutting myself" but without the blood, scars, and physical pain) It works rather well and then I can feel happy and energized again afterward.
I gotta say, having online friends (well some of them are now above the status of just "online friends" since we met in Touhoucon, we're now IRL friends who have connected on an IRL level) helps me feel better about life and such.
Doesn't help that the household I live in is what's constantly filling my sense of inadequacy, but that's another story for another day. One day I'll break free and can finally see myself in a bright light outside of my toxic lens.
I wanna be positive. I wanna think highly of myself. I wanna be able to own myself, my truths I may not like about myself, and live openly and freely in the world. But that will take time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:55:51 GMT
Weird, it works just fine for me. I've had extremely low self-esteem and depression for years. Touhou has always been my way to ease the pain. By getting achievements I feel this rush of positive energy and adequacy that I otherwise don't have. So I always strive for more and more achievements to get that "rush" and sense of satisfaction for the hard work I put in. I am also a heavy eater and tend to not like going outside much. One of my favorite past times is feeling sorry for myself and shoveling myself with food. Sometimes if I'm really upset I will play music and cry during it to release the pain. (It's my way of "cutting myself" but without the blood, scars, and physical pain) It works rather well and then I can feel happy and energized again afterward. I gotta say, having online friends (well some of them are now above the status of just "online friends" since we met in Touhoucon, we're now IRL friends who have connected on an IRL level) helps me feel better about life and such. Doesn't help that the household I live in is what's constantly filling my sense of inadequacy, but that's another story for another day. One day I'll break free and can finally see myself in a bright light outside of my toxic lens. I wanna be positive. I wanna think highly of myself. I wanna be able to own myself, my truths I may not like about myself, and live openly and freely in the world. But that will take time. Well, it's good that you've found non-harmful ways to cope, at least. Although I highly suggest spending time outside, even if it's only 30 minutes under the sun. Grab your phone and put on some music, or read a book out there, and all of that. And I believe that you can. I'm not a therapist and definitely should not be treated like one, but if you want someone to just send words to, feel free, I suppose? Can't and won't guarantee prompt replies though.
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Post by MauserZGK on Oct 10, 2015 18:15:29 GMT
tfw i just realized i increased my IRL friendstock by 500%!
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