ZM
Kochiyaist
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Arahitogami~
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Post by ZM on Nov 21, 2015 20:47:17 GMT
Minako (Eris) plz xD opinions are opinions New list time. Best: Undefined Fantastic Object UFO: Solid entry into the series and my personal favorite. Aside from maybe MoF, I spent more time with this game compared to any other shump. The game provides the kind of patterns I love in a Touhou game (random dodging is fun, and UFO provides plenty of that along with patterns that don't get boring), and the pacing feels just right. Shot types are basically balanced, too, with each providing a benefit to see use (MarisaB's bomb is nice for UFOs, I guess .w.). The cast may be on the less popular side, but I like them all, with Nue and Shou being my favorite newbies from the game. Soundtrack is solid, too. The worst thing about this game (I personally don't have issues with this problem since I play the game ritually) is probably the fact that getting used to UFO routes can take a while and make the game feel like a chore, especially when patterns here get pretty rough. Thankfully that was never really a problem for me, since this is the game that got me into Touhou's gameplay. Playable Sanae does wonders~ Great: Mountain of Faith, Perfect Cherry Blossom MoF: Simple and fast-paced, which feels perfect for this game. Patterns aren't ones I'd call the most fun from this game (aside from DVoWG, which is definitely my favorite spell card in the series), but they're still pretty alright. This game has by far and away the best soundtrack in the entire series. Hearing the vast majority of themes from this game from time to time is a nice dose of ear candy for me. MoF also introduced the best character in the series (Sanae <3). Lack of graze is a shame, but I suppose it fits with the mechanics present here. PCB: Debatably ZUN's best made game. Everything in this game seems like quite a bit of thought was put into it. Nearly every boss fight in the game is enjoyable (Yukari's fight probably being my favorite in the series), and the difficulty throughout the game is at a pretty nice level. Soundtrack is one of the best, and the cast is a very memorable one, too. The cherry mechanic is one of the most, if not the, most complex features in a Touhou game. ...Yeah, PCB has a lot going for it. Fun game. Good: Subterranean Animism, Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil, Ten Desires Meh: Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom, Double Dealing Character, Imperishable Night Will write more later.
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Minako (Eris)
Immortal Princess
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Post by Minako (Eris) on Nov 21, 2015 21:11:58 GMT
You know I'm only joking xD
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nameschonvergeben
Posts: 180
Favorite Game: Imperishable NightFavorite Character: Patchouli Knowledge
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Post by nameschonvergeben on Nov 21, 2015 23:38:52 GMT
IN being bad is a meme that's being forced by bad people, don't let them blind you! It's the best game
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jpsuperplayer
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Post by jpsuperplayer on Nov 22, 2015 0:26:03 GMT
My favorite LOTUS LAND STORY... It...cute...lovely... smart...plus...amazing...you think so?...oh yes...it...stunning... kindly...love it! Hug it...when...sleeping...warm and cuddly... spectacular...ravishing... ...Oops! Look at the time! I kept you too long! Thanks for hearing me out!
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ZM
Kochiyaist
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Arahitogami~
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Post by ZM on Nov 22, 2015 1:46:54 GMT
My favorite LOTUS LAND STORY... It...cute...lovely... smart...plus...amazing...you think so?...oh yes...it...stunning... kindly...love it! Hug it...when...sleeping...warm and cuddly... spectacular...ravishing... ...Oops! Look at the time! I kept you too long! Thanks for hearing me out! now give me my bike voucher
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MauserZGK
娜兹琳的男朋友
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Post by MauserZGK on Nov 22, 2015 7:43:12 GMT
I wonder how IN being bad actually became a thing people say. Its supposed to be an idea that comes from a desire to have games with mouses in it, pristine danmaku hells in it and not having Kaguya in them. Just how many of those things can those people actually agree to wanting?!
The game is sorely lacking in anger! The sort of anger that will push even ME over the edge a lot of the time. And if games are that angry, then i doubt most of yous could even stand a chance let alone WANT TO TRY. Its like when people say they don't like TD when they can hardly beat Normal mode. Yet they think the game is too easy. Does not make sense IMO! You guys are PROBABLY just trying to sound cool by imitating the opinions of better players! Oh shit, its snowing outside. Also, in the time it took me to write this, the bullets in IN has finally reached from the boss down to my character so i gotta start pressing some buttons. Laters :3
EDIT:
And I'm back. The best games are UFO, LoLK and DDC. GFW and EoSD are pretty good too.
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LNN Keeper
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This account is rarely used anymore. LNN Thread updates mainly come from forum administrators.
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Post by LNN Keeper on Nov 23, 2015 20:49:38 GMT
Eh, I didn't even realize I was the one who originally made this thread. Regardless, it's been a while since then so I might as well renew my list.
High Tier: Perfect Cherry Blossom - Do I even need to explain? It's got fun and cool patterns, a great scoring system, and a nice cast of characters. This game is my most played and it definitely deserves it~
Double Dealing Character - Still a favorite, although I'm not as fond of it as I used to be. I think the scoring is trash. But I love the survival play in this game. The patterns are just fun to dodge, and ReimuA is fun to use. It also has one of the best OSTs IMO.
Good Tier: Mountain of Faith - Despite the two failures at VoWG, and the two 1MNBs at PWG, I began to grow on this game throughout my LNN journey. It's pretty fun to play, because it's so fast paced. The action starts in stage 3 and I generally find the patterns really fun to dodge. I hate Momiji and Aya, but everything else is aight. It's also got some legit backgrounds for the stages.
Undefined Fantastic Object - It's a solid game. It's got nice survival patterns, and a neat scoring system. It has awesome characters, and a neat soundtrack. The UFO system is very cool, and is fun to play around with. Unfortunately, I just generally don't enjoy playing this game as much as I used to. I never really get into a "I feel like playing UFO" mood anymore. I don't really know why, but that's just how it is for me...
Normal Tier: Subterranean Animism - It's an okay game, I guess. I like stage 4 and 5. But I don't think anything else really stands out from that. Lunatic scoring is pretty cool, and while I don't like bomb grazing (Fuck the DDC bomb grazing), I really like the ReimuA bomb grazing in this game. You can just rack up a ridiculous amount of graze on Lunatic, making all the point items in stage 4 onward worth so many points. The points are worth so much, in fact, that 5bil is possible. I also adore the graze POC system where you get items at MAX value by having your communication gauge full. It's such a genius concept that rewards grazing. Other than that though, I find stage 1-3 to be a snoozefest for survival play. But I don't mind stage 6's light difficulty. For LNN, having an easy stage 6 is like a godsend.
Imperishable Night - Disregarding the MEME hating on IN (That I only do to piss off Sakurei and NC), I can appreciate this game for what it does right. It doesn't heavily rely on RNG for its difficulty (outside of Kaguya), and has a lot of cool memorization patterns. It has a very awesome scoring system, and although it's not as good as PCB, rewards manual grazing and spell milking. I like how spell practice also lets you easily practice spell milks. I think the OST isn't that great though, and the characters aren't too memorable for me, I wouldn't mind giving this game a chance for score in the future.
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil - This game is pretty neat for just fun casual play. The patterns rely on just basic straight up dodging rather than tricks and such that modern patterns have. Although I usually despise RNG patterns a lot, I happen to enjoy EoSD's. Maybe it's because I never take this game seriously, that I can just enjoy it for what it is. I think I'd hate this game if I put in 1000s of hours into it.
Bad Tier: Ten Desires - From mediocre survival patterns to one of the stupidest systems I've seen in a Touhou game, this game marks among the worst for me. I can appreciate the music. I like the characters too, to some degree. But god I cannot stand playing the first three stages. They are soooo long and soooo boring. It makes LNNN grinding so boring and tedious. I just can't stand it.
Terribad Tier: Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom - Get this game away from me. No seriously, get it away. I want to forget its existence and pretend that it was never made. ZUN had a very bad year, is all, surely he'll be able to recover? My faith in ZUN crippled after this game's release...
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MauserZGK
娜兹琳的男朋友
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Post by MauserZGK on Nov 24, 2015 6:05:05 GMT
Worse than Ten Desires eh? Wow, strong :V
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LNN Keeper
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Post by LNN Keeper on Nov 24, 2015 6:37:25 GMT
Unbalanced, rushed, and completely stupid impossible RNG unreasonable lottery luckshit is WAY worse than mediocre and easy patterns.
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MauserZGK
娜兹琳的男朋友
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Post by MauserZGK on Nov 24, 2015 8:39:39 GMT
Eh, i suppose that's a fair opinion to have. There's plenty things wrong with it but overall I still think it holds out stronger than Ten Desires. Disregarding scoring and looking strictly at survival aspects, I would personally favor LolK as its full of situations because it throws so many bullshit situations at you and overcoming those situations feel rewarding when they happen. There's really nothing like this to be had in Ten Desires which relies almost exclusively on mediocrity and easiness. You and me and several others all managed to get close at LNNN (in very short time too) with the only mistakes being accidental run-ins with super slow moving bullets no doubt caused by lethargy brought on by the game's tepid pacing!
This is the game's secret weapon! I don't understand why this would be superior to LolK in any way unless you perceive the LNNN as something you are required to get and fuck the game if you can't have it. The way I see LolK is more as a scene game really. Not something to be taken seriously for reasons that you already stated above. The game is something to be ironically enjoyed, but admittedly taking this game with any degree of seriousness would obviously be inviting madness. I guess you could say that both of those games are their own unique sort of bad. They are both games that go on for way too long but they're located on opposite sides of the stupid spectrum xD
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nameschonvergeben
Posts: 151
Favorite Game: Imperishable NightFavorite Character: Patchouli Knowledge
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Post by nameschonvergeben on Nov 24, 2015 16:58:12 GMT
I'll ignore extra stages because they really complicate things and nobody else is talking about them.
Top Tier SA - I love SA Easy - Hard scoring mechanics. Grazing leads to a really good risk/reward balance. The emphasis on the first half of the game means that you have to use crazy yolo strats early on; I don't think I'll ever get tired of stages 1-3. Unfortunately lunatic changes the playing style completely and is probably the easiest lunatic when it comes to survival.
High Tier PCB - The border mechanic is cool, but the patterns in this game really aren't that memorable. The early game especially feels mundane, idk if it's much better with scoring strats. Survival play is ok, albeit quite slow-paced.
MoF - A realy fun game to LNB, because it's so fast paced and has really well designed patterns. There are some nice ideas to the scoring but there's simply not enough room for optimisation.
Meh Tier UFO, TD, EoSD
Shit Tier LoLK, IN
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Minako (Eris)
Immortal Princess
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Post by Minako (Eris) on Nov 24, 2015 17:32:28 GMT
Well that is shitSA is lots of fun
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Post by seventh on Feb 5, 2016 3:04:53 GMT
easy: mof>td>pcb>sa>in>fw>ufo>eosd
normal: mof>td>sa>pcb>in>fw>ufo>eosd
hard: mof>td>in>sa>pcb>fw>eosd>ufo
lunatic: mof>td>in>eosd>pcb>fw>sa>ufo
extra: mof>in>eosd>pcb>fw>sa>ufo>td
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Post by chum on Feb 5, 2016 3:29:26 GMT
easy: fw>pcb>in=eosd>mof=td=ufo=sa
normal: fw>pcb>eosd>in>ufo>mof>td=sa
hard: fw>pcb>eosd>in>ufo>mof>td=sa
lunatic: fw>pcb>eosd=in>ufo>sa>mof>(lolk>ddc>)td
extra: fw>in>td>eosd>pcb>ufo>sa>mof(>ddc>lolk)
fw>stb>ds>pofv=podd=pcb>eosd>in>ufo>mof>sa>td>ms=lolk=ddc>lls=hrtp=isc>soew
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cream
stage 3 boss
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Post by cream on Feb 9, 2016 0:13:56 GMT
I hate Touhou and I think it's B-tier inferior kusoge but if I had to choose a favorite I would probably pick all the ones with Marisa because she is my favoritehu... although the objectively best games are Perfect Cherry Blossom and Imperishable Night and I guess also Mountain of Faith and Subterranean Animism and Undefined Fantastic Object are not bad games either. I think Touhou secondaries should try Refrain: Prism Memories because the girls in that game have boobs and the patterns are way prettier; your fap sessions will be more yielding and more gratifying... unless lolis and mahou shoujo are really your thing. You know, in the bedroom. You never know on the interbutt! I guess Touhou has deep characters and a powerful storyline though. *winks at u & flies away into tha wind with sparkles and a demon called a danmaku flying behind*
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MauserZGK
娜兹琳的男朋友
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Post by MauserZGK on Feb 13, 2016 3:08:34 GMT
There's a lot of primaries talking in this thread, but then you come out of nowhere with an opinion that is neither solicited nor welcome. You are just a secondary Creamy, just bloody admit it. Contrary to popular belief, its impossible to formulate an educated opinion about these games without having world record tier scores... Unless you happen to like PCB or IN in which case you can, so I'm here to call you out on your bullshit. You're just plugging commonly accepted titles in your post to shield yourself from the super nerds who play those games religiously to the point where at the slightest negative description of their titles will declare that "game x is great" with such zealousy that you're starting to get worried whether they're wearing a suicide vest or if they're just coming angrily at you to kick you're arse with the typical post your scores argument! Quickly, supress the opinions of the players so that only those people who actually like it say what they think! As a turbo casual who is somehow like... 3000 times better at games than the common pleb, I've gathered up a lot of, albeit superficial, insight about these gemes (game + gem combined, haha i'm so fucking clever) and therefore am capable of presenting opinions that will reflect the attitudes of those with a more healthy appreciation of these games First of all, lets get one thing clear alright, I'm not a secondary just because I share the same living space as a Touhou character, I'm a full on primary and there's a lot of secondaries that i'd like to actually switch the discussion towards. I find it increasingly rare that I play games more than once these days, so having played these games for a lot longer than it takes to go through them the first time must be a testimony to the appeal of these games! I might sometimes complain about these games being too boring for me but that's not really the games themselves being boring is it, because seriously what kind of game is still fun after you've played them for 100 times their runtime? That would be like say, you beat Tales of Symphonya in 50 hours or however long that takes and then you play it for 5000 hours on top of that!! NOBODY WOULD DO THAT! In fact, i'd be surprised if you even beat it ONCE because wow is that voice acting ever ear-bleedingly abysmal and oh boy is it still earbleedingly abysmal in the newest Tales game, i tell you man i turned that stuff off in less than 3 hours because it was just that bad. Would not subject myself to that! You know that when the game starts out by asking you if you prefer the Japanese or English dub then you've got a real stinker because its either retarded otaku bait or just such a bad dubbing job that they figure that someone would rather read subtitles for the full duration of the game... Or maybe they just want VA's over their skits if we're talking Symphonya. Lazy hacks. Oh and don't even think for a second that PC port is alright, because its not and yeah, I can already hear the fanboys say "no! you don't get it! It's intentionally locked at 30fps!" but those sheeple, and yes i used that term ENTIRELY unironically, that's how smart I am. Anyway I digress, the point was that the Touhou games are actually fairly great because lmao, no bad game would have this much replay value! And I don't say replay value as in there's a lot of extra stuff you can do, no fuck that. I'm talking about lasting appeal, the only currency a game can actually have to keep you around! Fuck CONTENT or STORY or DANK ASS RODENTS and I will not give one solitary fuck that you were 'entertained' by awful videogames like practically everything maintream (PROBABLY INCLUDING UNDERTALE!) because your ability to be entertained just betray how simple you are. You don't want to play games, you want games to play YOU! You're a gamer - a thoughtless little tool of a human being just mindlessly consuming crappy products who think that walking simulators and JRPGS are a worthwhile contribution to ANYTHING. I however, am a player! Someone who plays videogames at a level that only a select few maxi nerds among you will be able to comprehend, and usually exceed but whatever, which is why that you should listen to my gospel because I actually legitimately know what i'm talking about. Checkmate secondaries. *tips fedora*
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alzack13
Bun of Darkness
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Rabbits shall rule
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Post by alzack13 on Feb 13, 2016 4:09:33 GMT
Try and keep on topic please. We have given a legitimate home for shitposts, you know! The warn beast looms if you keep it up.
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cream
stage 3 boss
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Post by cream on Feb 19, 2016 2:48:19 GMT
Do you want to know how secondary I am, zengy? *makes out with marisa kirisame plushy* Also I really do have an on-topic favorite game and it's Ten Desires.
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PearlescentX
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Post by PearlescentX on Feb 19, 2016 5:56:29 GMT
GOD TIER UFO, PCB, LLS
GREAT TIER EOSD, IN, MS, PODD, DDC
GOOD TIER SOEW, MOF, TD, POFV, LOLK
meh hrtp, sa
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Post by seventh on Jun 25, 2016 15:05:08 GMT
sixth month old taste is embarrassing so reposting
mof>in=fw>pcbs extra is good>td is sometimes cool>sa and eosd are boring>ufo and ddc are worse>I know nothing about lolk and have no interest in learning
couple things:
after playing nothing but mof for some time, and also with the amount of streams I watch going down a lot, I have become very intolerant of having to time down boss attacks, except for most of in and some of fw lunatic
td extra sucks. I get that the system idea on bosses is cool and extra uses it while maingame doesn't, but mamizou's spells are all bad, and the stage portion has nothing good in it outside of midboss. I don't see why this is so praised
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