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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 7, 2019 14:58:11 GMT
i will bring a war because i hate myselfi see many ppl still confused and some ppl trust Touhou always lose or win Highest in Touhou Dragon God (Nigh-Omnipotent) Lowest Maribel and Renko (Athlete Level) so i will tell which verses i know who can solo 2hu (for making thing clear) Solo 2hu (not in order) Marvel Comics (They have a omnipotent being (TOAA) so that's IMPOSSIBLE to solo them) DC Comics (like Marvel) Umineko (they have Bernkastel, Beatrice, Featherine or The Creator who is a omnipotent being Cthulhus Mythos (Azathoth or Yog-Sothoth are unstoppable and omnipotent) Valkyrie Crusade (at the moment you have Lucifer or Michael who have infinite love and power of God you give up) Get stomp by God Tier but can be a good match up for High TierMario (Mario can survive to the void, supernova or a blackhole, Dimentio who can destroy multiple universes so Mario is not so weak) Archie Sonic (Call Enerjak) Castlevania (Dracula who is more powerful than the Time Reaper who is officially a universal being or Chaos who is the embodiment of all chaotic and evil things) Kirby (never mess with a pink puffball) Sailor Moon and Madoka (yep i'm not joking)
Are just erased in less than 0 sec Me (obviously) RWBY (i'm truly sry for them) Danganronpa (the only who can resist the most is Izuru but he is also dead) MHA (even All Might)
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 12, 2019 16:21:10 GMT
What’s Mario supposed to do? Jump on their head three times? I don’t think so. Sure he can take a hit but he can’t really dish out hits himself. Also, Danganronpa? Who the heck is comparing a bullet Hell game to a murder mystery game where the best strategy is to never get attached to a character because that means their obviously going to die.
And I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Maxwell is a very good candidate to battle yukari due to him also having the ability to manipulate boundaries by using adjectives with his notebook and can also summon anything just by writing it down.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 12, 2019 17:15:05 GMT
But Mario always beat Bowser who can destroy everything and anything but if you take Paper Mario with the Chaos Heart he is very strong and have power up (the chaos heart can consume all existence and all universes in Mario verse) it's because they are too many ppl who downplay and underestimating Mario dunno why i say Danganronpa but why not I don't think for Maxwell Yukari in the tiering system of powers characterrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_Systemis Extra-Dimensional so with cosmology, dimensions etc. Which Maxwell doesn't have Boundaries Manip affect Maxwell she simply can do Able/Disable or Capacity/Incapacity and Maxwell can't use his notebook and Yukari can wrap the reality and her power is even comparable to gods who are unbounded by concepts so i don't thing Maxwell will win but i never see him manipulate boundaries that's just my opinion
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 12, 2019 18:28:08 GMT
Oh right, there is two more things I forgot to tell you. First of all, while this isn’t confirmed, it is believed that Maxwell can stop time. And second of all, this one thing is why I think he can beat yukari, behold: Object Editor. object editor allows him to use parts from things he can already make and create a brand new thing. He can also use scripting to give it cool abilities. Here are some things Maxwell could make to destroy yukari: Boundary manipulation proof armor. a sword that can affect people who are immune to casualty. a ray gun that, one used, any portals that the person that was hit by the ray creates are now clogged with kitties. And finally, to finish her off, Maxwell will use the button-that-when-pressed-eliminates-anybody-who’s-first-name-is-yukari-from-existence-inator.
So yea I think it’s a fair fight.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 12, 2019 21:04:03 GMT
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 14, 2019 4:44:35 GMT
Hey sorry I took so long. Ok so Maxwell has one more trick up his sleve. Adjectives. He could use adjectives like “can no longer make portals” and “can no longer use boundary manipulation” and to top it all off, so she can take damage, he could write down “mortal”. So yea, he can just take away her power before the battle even starts. And he can use object editor to make a crazy op thing to take her out. Although, if yukari can steal maxwells notebook from him, he will be powerless. But then again, he probably has an infinite amount of spare notebooks in his magic backpack. So he will just pull one out and keep fighting. Anyways,
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 14, 2019 16:01:53 GMT
But there a little problem
Yukari said she has no weakness and her power doesn't have weakness and she also can summon Ran or Chen and even if they are not enough strong, Reimu can come and she become unbeatable when she fly above reality and Yukari can go out of the reality and she can't be damaged, Suika punch Yukari but that did nothing to Yukari and Suika punch can destroy the heaven
but "can no longer make portals" or things like this is not a adjective it's a sentence that's not the same things
if it's probably, i don't trust i
but i say some verses who can solo or almost Touhou but i didn't explain why because i'm dumb lmao
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 21, 2019 21:43:34 GMT
No but powerless, weak, impotent, mortal, defenseless, and dead are adjectives. Also ran and chan are ban cuz I was thinking more of a 1v1
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 21, 2019 22:04:03 GMT
But Yukari can also do that with boundary manip there are 3 types of boundary Physical: Mountain/Sky or even border between two person so Maxwell have a border so she can manipulate him by simply erasing his border Spiritual: spiritual objects like ghosts, souls and also astral plane. Such borders are usually intangible and immaterial. Conceptual: mean you can manipulate concepts In the Touhou wiki it's said Yukari and boundary manip has no weakness The only way for Yukari to die is " All Youkai embodies a phenomenon and will continue existing as long as the phenomenon is not explained or their existence is forgotten" or simply Possible/Impossible like that it's impossible to beat her or also call Logic Manipulation
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 22, 2019 3:17:51 GMT
But can she make TUBETHULU?
or a pair of man eating nipples? or a car made of chainsaws? or a dead rat that spits nukes? or a pineapple that has the gravity of Jupiter? or a black hole that only sucks in people named Yukari Yakumo? or a raccoon that summons dead bodies? Or an extreamly buff pack of McDonald’s French fries? or the ULTIMASAUR. THE HEAD OF A TREX, THE NECK OF A BRONTOSAURUS, THE SPIKES OF A STEGOSAURUS, THE TAIL OF AN ANKYLOSAURUS, THE HORNS AND HEAD SHIELD THING OF A TRICERATOPS, THE WINGS OF A PTERODACTYL, AND THE BACK THING OF A SPINOSAURUS? yea, didn’t think so. Also he can write down “boundary manipulation proof” and then yukari will be powerless against him. And he can summon lovecraftian myths.
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 22, 2019 3:51:20 GMT
Also, when he wins he will use object editor to skin her body until it is a clean bone, then hang up her skeleton in his room as a trophy of his victory.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 22, 2019 9:46:32 GMT
Tubethulu? If you mean Cthulhu yes she can beat him because he is not at all the most powerful he is not even a Outer God: i.imgur.com/bmwHo.jpgyes chainsaw are nothing for Yukari so yes yes yes Suika can make black hole and Yukari can survive it and it at been show than anyone than fought Suika when she shattered heaven are MFTL+ (Massively faster than light+) so that will be easy for her yes yes She already egal to gods who are unbounded by concept and create the reality so a Ultimasaur is nothing i didn't understand boundary proof but i thinking something can he beat Living Tribunal, Thanos or Featherine Augustus Aurora with this method? i only see him summon Cthulhu, i never see if he can summon limitless things but boundary manip Zero/Infinity or Limit/limitless also Maxwell can't summon Omnilock/Meta Power Immunity characters Omnilock: exist above everything so above summoning Meta Power Immunity: are immune to anything (except omnipotence) so immune to being summoned and God Tier lovecraftian exist above everything so Omnilock so Maxwell cannot summon them and there are all mindless except Yog Sothoth and Azathoth She is able to regenerate as long as her disembodied consciousness exists, such as in the form of her soul or mind, or from other realms. Like all youkai can do and she is a phenomeon not really a living being. and also she can predict what Maxwell will do because she already predicted event of SA and she can use spellcard rules because it's a game or sort of law made by Reimu and Yukari, i don't think he can erase a law
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 22, 2019 10:12:53 GMT
after i search how Maxwell would be powerful he is Multiversal+ but in example Bill Cypher is High Multiversal+ also Madoka Goddess Form and Bill Cypher, Madoka are less powerful than Yukari (she is High Complex Multiversal, possibly higher)
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Post by Black Poison (Occult) on Oct 24, 2019 13:13:21 GMT
Sorry for interrupting your conversations, I have something to tell you. If you want to find the strongest universe, I have some advice.
1. You can cut almost all Science Fictions, since magic is way stronger and can’t be explained like Science. For example, if there’s a monster (or Chimera, in terms of science), you can control or kill it if you understand its behavior, anatomy and origin, that’s biology. If something is flying, their might be some physical mechanics in it to defy gravity. If something blows up, or starts fire, it’s probably a chemical reaction.
2. Study about them. Yes, you may say some characters are weak or strong, but before you say that, ask yourself about it. Being a god doesn’t always mean he/she is strong. For example, Aki sisters, who are goddesses and also non-fighters. The only thing they do is to control harvest, nothing is dangerous about them.
And for the 1v1 thing, I want you to make it fair. You can only do it if you are sure that their strengths are comparable or almost equal. You can pick who’s left after that.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 24, 2019 21:27:49 GMT
Very good points i see many fight about two characters only with similitude and no in term of powers There some example i found from fight who are not fair at all Sakuya vs Dio (because they both have time manip but not at the same level) Featherine Augustus Aurora vs Yukari (just because there are OP) Kirby vs Alucard (Castlevania) (no seriously i don't know why i found this) Yukari vs Sans (The worst) (because they are lazy) Mario vs Yang (RWBY) etc... (no dunno for this one too) Ganondorf vs Dracula (Castlevania) (just because there are both Dark Lord and opposite of God) here match who are more fair Reimu vs Sailor Moon Yukari vs Thanos Sakuya vs Shadow the Hedgehog etc... How i know how a character is powerful 1: A list of different level of power (Point Level to Omnipotence) characterrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System2: Studying about there abilities and species like you said Kuro, gods/goddess are not always infinite but that depend of the deity here a list of different deity (the stronger to the weakest) Monotheistic Deity/Absolute/Supreme Deity A supreme transcendent being that created and rules over all of existence. They have absolute power and unquestionable authority over everything, they are literally God, the strongest and most powerful being in all of creation.
Anti-God They are considered the essence of all evil, darkness, and chaos in existence. As the ultimate destroyer, they are ranked among the most powerful entities. So there are the opposite of the supreme deity.
Primordial Deity Creator Deity Destroyer Deity A primordial deity, a god, deity or divine being that has existed prior to or since the beginning of time.
A creator deity the creator of planets, solar systems, cosmoses, universes, and/or even the Multiverse/Omniverse. This power allows one to create anything on a divine level rather than rule it; and, it should not be confused with a Monotheistic Deity Physiology, which is the Supreme Being of all of Creation.
A destroyer deity is the opposite of creator deity, gaining immense power to destroy anything and everything, even divine beings. They can destroy planets, star systems and even universes in an instant. As a God of Destruction, the user also has the task of keeping balance in the universe. Working together with Gods of Creation, the Gods of Destruction discuss which planets and/or galaxies need to be destroyed and/or rebuilt.
Others deity you can think different species can give a power to the character now for abilities obviously everything depend I see how powerful the power is Exemple: Yukari power is Boundary manipulation, with this power she can manipulate everything since everything have a boundary here some example Death Inducement/Life Manipulation (Life/Death) Circadian Manipulation (Day/Night) Dreams Manipulation/Reality Manipulation (Dreams/Reality) Subjective Reality (Reality/Fantasy) Creation/Destruction Truth Manipulation (Truth/Lie) Existence Manipulation (Existence/Nonexistence) Duality Manipulation (Since almost every boundary is a duality) Concept Manipulation (by manipulating conceptual border) Border of dimension Logic Manipulation (Possible/Impossible) Past/Present/Future etc... that mean she is beyond universal Shizuha power is to control harvest that's not even beyond Building Level 3:Search what is the best/most powerful action the character did in example Komachi doesn't seem strong at all but when we see her best action she is not weak She is capable of transforming the Sanzu River into Infinite Space which would mean she created a space-time continuum since space cannot be separated from time. So with this feat that mean she is Universal+ That's how i explain power of characters
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Post by Black Poison (Occult) on Oct 25, 2019 15:50:13 GMT
Thanks. As I was writing some Science Fiction (My very own story), I know some simple mechanics and theories of science and apply them to my characters. Even I also think Touhou could relate to science. I reimagine their abilities and compare them to science. For example, Utsuho is related to nuclear fusion/fission, yet it’s extremely hard to do it in real life. Ok, have you ever heard of Kagerou Daze? Also known as Mekakucity Actors/Kagerou Project. Warning: Spoilers ahead, read it at your own risk (whatever warning this is)I’ve read the novel and she just came to my head. Here’s Azami, the true Medusa.She has all types of “eye abilities” except the retaining eyes. First, let’s take a look at the eye abilities, I will explain it shortly. (The person behind are the one who got possessed with these abilities. Concealing eyes: Able to conceal one or others from the environment, making one being hidden. Physical contact however, will break the effect. It can also apply on other objects within 2 meters or even one’s memories. ( Tsubomi Kido) Stealing eyes: Able to read the target’s mind. At full strength, one can even read the target’s feelings or memories. ( Kousuke Seto) Deceiving eyes: Able to change how people see you. Cannot apply on objects or other people. ( Shuuya Kano) Locking eyes: Able to turn people into stone with eye contact. (All the Medusa, Shion Kozakura, Marry Kozakura and Azami herself.) Combining eyes: Able to combine the power of the other “snakes”. Allowing one to control the “Kagerou Daze”. ( Marry Kozakura) Drawing eyes: Able to draw peoples attention, or even make them lost focus on the surroundings. ( Momo Kisaragi) Opening eyes: Able to remove one’s conscious from his/her body and take it wherever he/she wants. ( Ene) Focusing eyes: Able to perceive objects, locations, and people that are far away, from an aerial view. ( Hibiya Amamiya) Awakening eyes: Able to remake one’s body at will. ( Konoha) Clearing eyes: Able to interfere with and stop the use of other eye abilities completely. ( Kenjitou Tateyama) Favoring eyes: Able to project one’s emotions onto others, also able to project other people's memories and emotions onto others. ( Ayano Tateyama) Retaining eyes: Able to remember any thing one sees, yet Azami didn’t have this ability. ( Shintaro Kisaragi) The reason is that, she is a Medusa, she can control these abilities with the “eyes”. She also created the “Kagerou Daze” by the snake’s advice, yet it just make things chaotic. I want to say that my favorite character of KagePro is Kido. I also like how cute Marry is.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 25, 2019 18:18:20 GMT
There are also other characters like Yukari who can manipulate quantum (wave/particle), Magic/Science or even Logic/Illogical (Possible/Impossible) also Sakuya with her space-time manip, ZUN said that "Manipulation of Time" is synonymous with "Manipulation of Space" (as it's well-known space and time are related as a 4-dimensional Lorentzian space within a pseudo-Riemannian manifold) or maybe Rikako but i'm not sure I already heard about Kagerou Project and i pretty like it Azami look pretty strong With her eyes abilities she can affect physical things, also metaphysical things since she affect memories, mind, emotions, conscious etc... and she created a world "Kagerou Daze", can she affect also pataphysics? Pataphysics is over the ineffable, the unknown and the unknowable, beyond metaphysical law. It also manipulates imaginary solutions, which symbolically attributes the properties of objects, described by their Virtuality, to their lineaments. Things like Concepts, Logic, Origin, Cycle, Principle, Existence or even the Totality. Just for ask even if she can't manipulate pataphysics she stay very powerful for creating a world Favorite for me is Ayano she is so cute
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Post by Black Poison (Occult) on Oct 26, 2019 1:30:49 GMT
Yes, she did create the “Kagerou Daze”. The reason? How do these people (not Azami) get their power? I almost finish the novel (Just waiting for the last book to be sold in my country) and watched the anime so I understand the story well. Extreme spoilers aheadThey were having a “near-death” experience, yet before they’ll die, they got swallowed by that giant snake. All dead people will be in a world of Kagerou Daze, yet those people (from the story) just got possessed by these abilities and sent back to the world
There’s a part of the story when Tsubomi met Azami, she thought that she was dead but actually she didn’t, so Azami explain about it. The reason Azami decided to create the Kagerou Daze is that, she just want to live happily with her family, without the threats.
She just want to live with Shion, her daughter, who was killed by humans while protecting Marry. Also, her husband, a human, who won’t stay with her forever.
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Post by ツ Synara ツ on Oct 26, 2019 12:32:58 GMT
I dunno why but i start to love Azami because she is so kind
i feel sad for her
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Post by I require sacrifice on Oct 26, 2019 20:37:53 GMT
Well... I guess our conversation about yukari vs Maxwell is left off with a cliff hanger. Eh, I was getting bored anyways.
Also, speaking of Sakuya, I was just thinking, would dialga be a good candidate to fight her? I mean, dialga created time so would that mess with Sakuya’s time manipulation? I think so.
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