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Post by mdd33 on Apr 10, 2017 16:07:24 GMT
did u *have* to quote the entire post Some people always quote posts in forums. I think he did that to make a point tho Also this just in, anyone knows how to reduce Twich buffering? Reducing quality is probably the only way, also pray Twitch isn't a dick and randomly fucks the stream player (always does for me it's super annoying).
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ILikeBulletZ
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Post by ILikeBulletZ on Apr 10, 2017 17:00:48 GMT
Thats the thing, though.
Most of the time, it just locks me in the highest quality there is. Which makes the entire thing buffer, my internet cant take it and its basically unwatchable.
Worse yet, it seems to do this randomly. Sometimes I can lower the quality and its fine. Most of the time I cant, and when that happens, I have no choice but to leave...
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mdd33
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Post by mdd33 on Apr 10, 2017 17:29:44 GMT
Does the Auto setting work for you?
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Post by ILikeBulletZ on Apr 10, 2017 18:34:23 GMT
Does the Auto setting work for you? Does not seem to work. I mean I can select it, but it seems to be the same as "source"...
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Post by KirbyComment on Apr 11, 2017 13:57:32 GMT
To the people actually running the stream. There is an option in the Twitch settings which is "Reduce Stream Delay". If this is turned on, it will (as it suggests) reduce the stream delay, which is useful for streams which focus on chat activity alot. The cost of that however is that people with poor connection will more likely experience buffering. In case this feature is turned on, perhaps you can try turning it off so that people like the ones who just complained about it to not as easily have this problem anymore.
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 11, 2017 21:39:31 GMT
To the people actually running the stream. There is an option in the Twitch settings which is "Reduce Stream Delay". If this is turned on, it will (as it suggests) reduce the stream delay, which is useful for streams which focus on chat activity alot. The cost of that however is that people with poor connection will more likely experience buffering. In case this feature is turned on, perhaps you can try turning it off so that people like the ones who just complained about it to not as easily have this problem anymore. I currently do not have this feature turned on, although I may consider doing that. I'll probably try lowering my bitrate for next time.
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Post by Chromatrope on Apr 14, 2017 20:40:26 GMT
If the stream is under 3mbps, any buffering is almost certainly either on the stream or user end, not twitch. Above 3mbps, while still technically possible, can get shaky because Twitch's infrastructure isn't too good. As long as your internet isn't wildly shaky, "reduce stream delay" shouldn't cause much buffering, and at the absolute worst it buffers to where it normally would without the setting turned on, so theoretically there's no real reason not to.
Auto quality just selects lower qualities if your internet can't keep up. If it's the same as source, that means that at that moment, your internet can handle source just fine. If it buffers a lot with auto but stays on source, it's on the broadcaster or twitch, not you.
By far the best way to achieve consistent quality and framerate without knackering your own and everyone else's net as well as twitch is to just lower the resolution. judging by some rough measurements, 540p should result in the game approximately scaling 1:1 rendered vs recorded pixels with the current layout, and while you sacrifice a bit of quality in the layout itself, that doesn't really matter because any time anything happened the quality of the layout shat itself anyways.
For a reasonable compromise to accommodate people with mediocre net but keep quality ok, I'd recommend 540p60 x.264 medium or fast (depending on if your CPU can take medium or not) at 1500-2000kbps bitrate, with reduce stream delay turned on (it really helps quick communication a ton and also reduces the effect of people in voice reacting a whole 20 seconds after something's happened. Lately stream delays with the reduce delay setting have gotten as low as 5-7s, as opposed to the typical 20 of not using the setting).
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 15, 2017 3:25:43 GMT
I'll keep in mind and change the stream settings accordingly. Thanks!
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Post by ILikeBulletZ on Apr 15, 2017 3:58:32 GMT
Thank you for taking these advices into account.
I have also done a couple of things on my end for a sligthly more stable internet. I hope it does the trick!
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mdd33
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Post by mdd33 on Apr 15, 2017 13:08:41 GMT
Martin I asked to replace my DDC normal with UFO normal and u said yes. >.< it's fine though
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Post by Syaro on Apr 15, 2017 14:15:35 GMT
Don't put it at 2000 kb/s lmao
A lot of people can't watch that, regardless of what people here say.
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 15, 2017 17:23:43 GMT
Martin I asked to replace my DDC normal with UFO normal and u said yes. >.< it's fine though I must have forgot again lol, whatever maybe next time. Also prior to this i had it at 2.5k bitrate, surprised many people could keep up. But that's fine, I've lowered the bitrate now.
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Post by Chromatrope on Apr 16, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
Don't put it at 2000 kb/s lmao A lot of people can't watch that, regardless of what people here say. I'm sure there's some people that can't watch 2000kb, but Twitch has quality settings for each and every single channel now. High seems to cap at 1500-1600, Medium at 700-800, Low below 450 and Mobile at approximately potato, and Twitch has more powerful machines for transcoding than Martin does so it's not like it becomes instantly unwatchable if you drop to Medium. The goal of quality settings is to increase the potential audience without sacrificing quality for everyone, and I'd say that's pretty applicable here, as the quality hit moving from the previous bitrate to 1.5k is quite significant, it's occasionally legitimately difficult to see what's going on, and the artifacting is getting quite strange. I'd be a bit more 50/50 on the issue if it were a month back but Twitch now consistently offers quality settings for all channels with the intention of avoiding having to make compromises like these. Edit: I appear to be wrong about this, sometimes there's no quality settings still, but the vast majority of the small channels I follow has quality settings. Might be worth waiting a few streams then to see if the settings truly appear consistently.
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 17, 2017 0:38:15 GMT
Submissions will be temporarily closed for 2 weeks. They will reopen two Sundays from now.
Also regarding the bitrate: I'll change back to 2k or above. Let's see how this goes.
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Post by ILikeBulletZ on Apr 17, 2017 3:23:54 GMT
Submissions will be temporarily closed for 2 weeks. They will reopen two Sundays from now. Also regarding the bitrate: I'll change back to 2k or above. Let's see how this goes. I really dont have a problem so long as Twich lets me change qualities. If low/medium was always avaliable then I can manage with that. The entire problem in the first place was because Twich is sometimes a major ****** and wont let me change quality from Source for some incredibly retarded reason. This weekend, Twich was nice and gave all quality options. Now whenever this has to do with you lowering the bitrate, or my own doing for more stable internet, or just Twich being randomly nicer for no apparent reason... I have no clue. Also, I did not saw any issues at all. I was on Medium and I could tell everything that was going on in the screen, no issues. Then again I am used to low quality so maybe its that...
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Post by Chromatrope on Apr 17, 2017 22:05:07 GMT
Submissions will be temporarily closed for 2 weeks. They will reopen two Sundays from now. Also regarding the bitrate: I'll change back to 2k or above. Let's see how this goes. I really dont have a problem so long as Twich lets me change qualities. If low/medium was always avaliable then I can manage with that. The entire problem in the first place was because Twich is sometimes a major ****** and wont let me change quality from Source for some incredibly retarded reason. This weekend, Twich was nice and gave all quality options. Now whenever this has to do with you lowering the bitrate, or my own doing for more stable internet, or just Twich being randomly nicer for no apparent reason... I have no clue. Also, I did not saw any issues at all. I was on Medium and I could tell everything that was going on in the screen, no issues. Then again I am used to low quality so maybe its that... Twitch seems to give quality settings globally, in the sense of, if one person has them for a channel, all people have them for that channel. Last week there were no quality settings but this week there were. I've started seeing quality settings even on streams that only get 2-3 viewers so I'm hoping and assuming they'll start showing up more consistently.
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 22, 2017 4:19:58 GMT
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Post by Satori Komeiji on Apr 25, 2017 23:00:08 GMT
I copy-pasted this from MotK to make some clarifications about important stuff.
Alright, I will come to light about everything that has happened during that particular day of TRS.
First of all, I must emphasize that the incident wasn't just due to the events of that day. It was a build-up over several streams. The bannings and the subsequent post that followed was a group decision and also the final straw to these successive events. This decision was a last resort - I preferred to stay away from having to do so. When this was enough to make several stream commentators leave the stream, I knew this problem had to be dealt with promptly.
Copper's server did not have any part in deciding who should be banned and who shouldn't be. The only people who are involved in making these decisions are me, ZM, Maribel, Yats and Obama. No more, no less. Zig was not involved in any way, shape or form in coming up with the potential banlist. Pearl was also not involved in any way either. Bans are also decided as a group, not from any individual. I explicitly told everyone that shadow banning will NOT be tolerated.
The following people are banned: Sakurei and dxk. The following people have been banned, but undone: Nameschonvergeben. The following people have been considered for a ban, but were ultimately denied: Chum, Satis, Morth, Star King, Grayst, MegaPulse.
Sakurei was banned mainly because of his particular attitude towards certain individuals' runs (although after discussion it was found that it wasn't as toxic as I thought). I talked about reversing the ban but he said not to do so, and thus I left it as is. Dxk was banned due to coming into the stream only to shitpost, i.e. "sanny is a sloot xdddddddddd". NC was initially banned due to associating him with people who only came onto TRS to troll, but later decided that he didn't really do anything to that extent, and same with the rest of the people on that list more or less. To be honest, a lot of negative rationality was flying about on that particular day and I felt that both sides did things wrongly and I do sincerely apologize for that. I hope that something like this will not happen ever again.
I must also emphasize that elitism was never the intent of my stream. I am very open to players of all kinds of skill level regardless of the game you play or whether you score or survive. Don't let a bunch of ignorant people give you images about what my stream environment is like, especially considering most of the jabs are banter-like in nature, particularly towards Lollipop and Dass.
I hope this clears up all misconceptions about everything moderation-related to TRS. I wish to improve the way I do things and I feel that being fully transparent with my decisions is the way to go from here.
Thank you for your support.
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mdd33
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Post by mdd33 on Apr 26, 2017 18:46:11 GMT
Can confirm, please don't take any jabs or mean stuff directed at me *too* seriously. xd
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ILikeBulletZ
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Post by ILikeBulletZ on Apr 27, 2017 1:57:20 GMT
I feel like I am missing something... but maybe its better if I keep it that way.
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