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Post by relick on Apr 11, 2015 19:38:29 GMT
I have a feeling Touhou 15 won't be a phantasmagoria game, unless ZUN is in the mood to continue a pattern (which I don't know his track record on but I'm fairly sure he doesn't care about following patterns ) Of course, if he wants to make another phantasmagoria game, then 15 is the prime time to do it considering the massive character base to choose from between 10 and 14. Where exactly this hypothesis originates from is surprisingly mathematical. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream was the third official installment, and Phantasmagoria of Flower View being the ninth official installment, a six installment difference. Touhou 15 is directly six games in succession to 9. Moreover, 9 was released upon Touhou's tenth anniversary, and 15 on its twentieth, which creates a convoluted yet promising premonition. If this mathematical formula is correct or not, that is soon to be tested. Yes, I realise that xD. That's why I said about ZUN continuing a pattern.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 19:43:11 GMT
Tbh, I'm more hyped about 14.5 right now. I guess because there is less time to wait for it than 15. Maybe 14.5 can be my 1st fighter? I've never played one before...
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 11, 2015 19:43:45 GMT
Where exactly this hypothesis originates from is surprisingly mathematical. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream was the third official installment, and Phantasmagoria of Flower View being the ninth official installment, a six installment difference. Touhou 15 is directly six games in succession to 9. Moreover, 9 was released upon Touhou's tenth anniversary, and 15 on its twentieth, which creates a convoluted yet promising premonition. If this mathematical formula is correct or not, that is soon to be tested. Yes, I realise that xD. That's why I said about ZUN continuing a pattern. In all likelihood, Touhou 15 will probably debut during the initial release of ULiL, a la Double Dealing Character to Hopeless Masquerade, which creates additional questions pertaining towards a pattern of a fighting game being released before the official numbered titles. Touhou 15.5 = Fighting Game - Touhou 16 = Danmaku Game? It's likely purely coincidental.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 19:46:32 GMT
Won't there be something in between those two games btw? Like 14.8 or something? So perhaps this may still be a phantasmagoria but not a 20 anniversary
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 11, 2015 19:48:42 GMT
Well, ZUN considers 1995 as Touhou's respective birth, and normally he releases games every two years, so this perfectly matches his release consistencies.
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Post by ZM on Apr 11, 2015 20:17:27 GMT
I refuse to get my hopes up.
As much as Sanae being in this game would instantly make it my favorite fighting game, we have a datamine. There were already doubts about Mokou, and what do ya know, she's in the game. So please guys, don't get your hopes up. You'll be sorely disappointed.
I apologize for the pessimism, but no use hoping for all these characters to make it into the game when it most likely won't happen.
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 11, 2015 20:21:52 GMT
I refuse to get my hopes up. As much as Sanae being in this game would instantly make it my favorite fighting game, we have a datamine. There were already doubts about Mokou, and what do ya know, she's in the game. So please guys, don't get your hopes up. You'll be sorely disappointed. I apologize for the pessimism, but no use hoping for all these characters to make it into the game when it most likely won't happen. Your pessimism is absolutely justifiable in all respects, that's why I'm hypothesizing and not completely investing in near falsifiable predictions.
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Post by ZM on Apr 11, 2015 20:23:18 GMT
I refuse to get my hopes up. As much as Sanae being in this game would instantly make it my favorite fighting game, we have a datamine. There were already doubts about Mokou, and what do ya know, she's in the game. So please guys, don't get your hopes up. You'll be sorely disappointed. I apologize for the pessimism, but no use hoping for all these characters to make it into the game when it most likely won't happen. Your pessimism is absolutely justifiable in all respects, that's why I'm hypothesizing and not completely investing in near falsifiable predictions. That's A-OK. We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 11, 2015 20:24:23 GMT
Your pessimism is absolutely justifiable in all respects, that's why I'm hypothesizing and not completely investing in near falsifiable predictions. That's A-OK. We'll have to wait and see. Regardless of who's playable, it will be entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 20:25:02 GMT
I say screw pessimism I'm tired of having this outlook for the last few weeks. But that's just my mood.
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Post by ZM on Apr 11, 2015 21:06:06 GMT
Maybe I should lighten up a little...
But after the ORAS datamine fiasco, I'm quite uptight about them. .w.
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Post by relick on Apr 11, 2015 23:12:01 GMT
Maybe I should lighten up a little... But after the ORAS datamine fiasco, I'm quite uptight about them. .w. There is a significant difference between the production cycle of a large games company and the production cycle of one guy and a small doujin circle. A datamine from Gamefreak is much more likely to be accurate than a datamine from ZUN. Besides, my hope that there will be more characters rests in my faith that the datamine wouldn't be the final list because that would be a truly shit output by ZUN and tasofro. It's a fighter so I won't care that much if it has a terrible character list, but it'll just be disappointing that 4 new characters is all they could come up with.
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Post by ZM on Apr 11, 2015 23:30:05 GMT
Maybe I should lighten up a little... But after the ORAS datamine fiasco, I'm quite uptight about them. .w. There is a significant difference between the production cycle of a large games company and the production cycle of one guy and a small doujin circle. A datamine from Gamefreak is much more likely to be accurate than a datamine from ZUN. Besides, my hope that there will be more characters rests in my faith that the datamine wouldn't be the final list because that would be a truly shit output by ZUN and tasofro. It's a fighter so I won't care that much if it has a terrible character list, but it'll just be disappointing that 4 new characters is all they could come up with. I just wouln't have very high expectations. ZUN, as much as I adore the guy, was the same guy who scrapped Mokou and Kaguya from Soku because they'd be 'too OP'.
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 11, 2015 23:58:14 GMT
There is a significant difference between the production cycle of a large games company and the production cycle of one guy and a small doujin circle. A datamine from Gamefreak is much more likely to be accurate than a datamine from ZUN. Besides, my hope that there will be more characters rests in my faith that the datamine wouldn't be the final list because that would be a truly shit output by ZUN and tasofro. It's a fighter so I won't care that much if it has a terrible character list, but it'll just be disappointing that 4 new characters is all they could come up with. I just wouln't have very high expectations. ZUN, as much as I adore the guy, was the same guy who scrapped Mokou and Kaguya from Soku because they'd be 'too OP'. Which was consequently because of strict time constraints.
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Post by ZM on Apr 12, 2015 0:09:23 GMT
I just wouln't have very high expectations. ZUN, as much as I adore the guy, was the same guy who scrapped Mokou and Kaguya from Soku because they'd be 'too OP'. Which was consequently because of strict time constraints. True. Meanwhile there's only a month left for ULiL.
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 12, 2015 0:13:01 GMT
There seems to be great concentration on the anatomical accuracy of Moe's illustration of Mokou....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 12:57:16 GMT
It will be cool to have new arrangements of Mokou's and Sukuna's themes both being in my top 25. Tbh, I will try not to be too disappointed if Kaguya doesn't appear, but it will be brilliant, as I keep saying.
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Post by ZM on Apr 12, 2015 13:47:02 GMT
It will be cool to have new arrangements of Mokou's and Sukuna's themes both being in my top 25. Tbh, I will try not to be too disappointed if Kaguya doesn't appear, but it will be brilliant, as I keep saying. Don't worry, we can make our own fighting games.
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Post by Royalty of House Scarlet on Apr 12, 2015 14:01:29 GMT
There's a great deal of people expressing their grievances and disappointments about their favorable characters potentially not appearing, but I'm mostly interested in demonstrating characters that were depraved of play-ability, allowing characters of non-significant occupations to have a chance to display their abilities and personalities that were so vaguely described; diversity in a competitive fighting game is of unparalleled importance. Besides, I'm a Cleveland Browns' fan, I'm used to disappointments.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 17:57:55 GMT
It will be cool to have new arrangements of Mokou's and Sukuna's themes both being in my top 25. Tbh, I will try not to be too disappointed if Kaguya doesn't appear, but it will be brilliant, as I keep saying. Don't worry, we can make our own fighting games. True! But I probably couldn't make one xD.
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