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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 5:35:29 GMT
I won't remove my vote because a quicklynch that doesn't give the SM much info would be far more beneficial than deliberately handing a ton of info to the SM.
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 11:39:01 GMT
In my own observation... This just in:
• There's full on aggressiveness in Proto's every post. Though some may be having that "sense" - when ending up into a conclusion, it may go for a lynch "fail" or, just plain meh. I just seem to find that Proto's assumptions on who may be the hunted Shrine Maiden is rather very quick. Plus points on explaining but the whole lynch part doesn't make any sense, by the end of the day. Sure, we don't have clues, we're starting with "nothing but thin air" each time another day starts. But, I suppose, two days (or better) would work to know who's the target would be good. Because in this game - early assumptions could lead into a shot miss - as what I observed from day 1 until onwards.
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Post by Proto on Dec 26, 2015 12:24:11 GMT
relick Hmmm, not quite the reaction I was hoping for but it was close enough, I guess. You got the right idea (though my train of thought was slightly different). From the Shrine Maiden's perspective, the three players that are not mentioned by each player will be guaranteed to have at least one Sister each. The Shrine Maiden gets four distinct sets of three players each (and they would likely be mentioned a few times too), which makes it super easy for them to narrow down or even perfectly identify the Sisters. I figured that if you were a Shrine Maiden (and you were the strongest candidate by far, after Javex died), you'd likely have accepted the proposal because you wouldn't seriously consider the possibility of me being the Shrine Maiden, and you wouldn't point out the problems with my proposal since it would benefit you and you could always blame me for proposing it if somebody calls out against it. On the other hand, if you weren't a Shrine Maiden, I was expecting you to increase your suspicions against me, declaring the proposal as stronger evidence that I'm the Shrine Maiden trying to trick the players through an anti-ShrineMaiden proposal. Unfortunately, your reaction wasn't quite as strong as I was expecting, but it's enough to kinda convince me that you aren't the Shrine Maiden. Kasha is not the Shrine Maiden. If you were actually the Shrine Maiden and you realized I was trying to lay a trap, then I'll have to applaud you. You've played well and you'll have earned your victory. I wasn't expecting my suspicions to be wrong though, and I think I'll likely die right now. But I should at least declare who I think is the Shrine Maiden before I die, I guess. Although my suspicions this time are nowhere near as strong as my past suspicions on Javex and Kasha, I think the shrine maiden might be ##Vote: Clear-chan. Every single vote of his was sheeping my own vote. I didn't want to draw attention to this earlier since I wanted to mildly deceive the Shrine Maiden, but at this point I can't overlook the possibility that Clear-chan himself is the Shrine Maiden, and he's latching on to my votes to accelerate the lynches of other players for his own self-preservation, while my aggressiveness against the victims would stand out much more than his sheeping.
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Post by Ariezza on Dec 26, 2015 12:32:35 GMT
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 12:52:50 GMT
Gah! Missed the voting again
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 26, 2015 13:11:46 GMT
but Remi, you still can vote, I don't know if this was a misunderstanding or not, but why are you not voting right now? For not drawing attention, most likely. I am confident now that Proto is indeed the shrine maiden, as I said, he was pretty convincing, so that's why I followed him with my votes. It turned out to be wrong. So, for now, I'm invoking the hammer on Proto. If it actually turns out that Proto is not a shrine maiden, then if I get suspected that I'm the shrine maiden, I can't blame you, since I invoked the hammer, but you should think that it would be suicidal for a SM to do so, the shrine maiden will most likely not draw attention when it comes to hammering. (or at least that's how I think it is) ##Vote:Proto"LIKE SERIOUSLY DON'T YOU GUYS SEE HOW CRITICAL THIS SITUATION IS??? WHY ARE YOU SO EAGER TO FREAKING VOTE???" Your desperation is a reason enough to vote you
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Post by Ariezza on Dec 26, 2015 13:24:11 GMT
Day 3 has endedSo quick, but not as quick as the legendary day 1.##Vote:Proto"LIKE SERIOUSLY DON'T YOU GUYS SEE HOW CRITICAL THIS SITUATION IS??? WHY ARE YOU SO EAGER TO FREAKING VOTE???" Your desperation is a reason enough to vote you This is a hammer. Proto has been hammered. He is a Babysitter. Day 4 has started Players alive: 1. relick 2. Crystal Clear 3. A Certain Remilia 4. TimoteTh3God
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 26, 2015 13:37:10 GMT
...ok I did not expect that. Well then, time to vote for the most defensive one and that is Remi. as I said before, I think the shrine maiden is the one that will either be super agressive and manipulative (and this is why I suspected Proto) or the one that is laid-back, defensive and will draw the least attention, which is Remi. This mostly convinced me in this phase, where she didn't vote at all, because she knows she isn't in danger, so there's no reason for her to vote. ##Vote:Remi
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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 14:34:20 GMT
##Vote: Crystal
I don't think I need to explain why, but just follow my logic and proto's logic in our previous few posts and this conclusion should be obvious.
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 26, 2015 15:54:58 GMT
Welp, seems like Relick doesn't trust me, I assure you that I'm not the SM, as I said the reason that I voted for him is because I just believed in Proto too much, I voted for him this time because as I said, I thought he just tried to manipulate us into killing each other also: Unvote:Remi Vote:Tim Let me remind you: The remaining roles are a Babysitter, the Shrine Maiden, the Scarlet Devil sister and the Diabolic Wave sister, someone is getting support and he's not even conscious of it. Also, I'm going back to my previous suspicion and I'm voting for Tim for now.
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 16:32:43 GMT
Actually, the only reason why I am not able to vote is due to me being too late to open the page. I don't really check it regularly due to things that has been happening. This vote apparently has... like yeah, going in my mind. And no, this time: it isn't for the modkill part. Every single vote of his was sheeping my own vote. I didn't want to draw attention to this earlier since I wanted to mildly deceive the Shrine Maiden, but at this point I can't overlook the possibility that Clear-chan himself is the Shrine Maiden, and he's latching on to my votes to accelerate the lynches of other players for his own self-preservation, while my aggressiveness against the victims would stand out much more than his sheeping. I'd agree with Relick and Proto, however. That's also what I observed. Though, I had less chances of putting in quite the right vote seeing I was in a rush so that I don't get modkilled. (Sorry, temmie.) As implied earlier: sheeping is one way to get self-preservation. And that's the only point why I'm doing this. ##vote:Crystal
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 26, 2015 16:41:36 GMT
So Remi was just busy, ok. Well, seems like I got 2 votes. I warn you, if I get voted out, the game will be over, the real SM will win, which I suspect it's Tim, I wasn't even conscious that I was sheeping! For now, just unvote and think about it, no need to hurry up
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 16:42:01 GMT
To enforce the thought: Since we can't strongly believe one about that part (where you don't know if it was really true that's what was running in someone's mind. Or was just an enforced false thought spoken out to redirect.)
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 16:43:46 GMT
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU ~ can't edit that. >;c It was incompleeeete.
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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 16:45:27 GMT
The Shrine Maiden is extremely close to winning at this point: The Sisters can't use their kill ability any more without the SM winning in the process (in either scenario where it is used in public whilst both are alive, or if one dies then it is used in private, SM still wins) - except in the singular case that one of the Sisters used their ability in public and killed the SM, and then the SM was unlucky enough to pick the last Babysitter as opposed to the last Sister, in a 50/50 gamble. All other paths where the ability is used lead to the SM getting a guaranteed win. If we lynch them this day, they should go for a double random kill (perhaps informed by their own suspicions), which has approximately 1/3 chance of succeeding in killing both Sisters. However, I imagine that chance will go up higher the more we wait and discuss. If we lynch anyone else, however, (which bear in mind is the more likely option if we don't think this through properly) then the SM gets a guaranteed win. Hence, the Sisters' only real chance of success is if we lynch the Shrine Maiden today. Now, I want to draw attention to Crystal's hammering of Proto. There are two things that could have happened ( post being referenced): Crystal did not read my post regarding the hammer - This means that he was unaware that I'd made clear that whoever hammers will be pinned as the SM, and therefore he took it as an opportunity to eliminate someone without discussion. If this is true, then Crystal is most likely the SM. Crystal read my post regarding the hammer - He was fully aware that we would pin suspicion on him as being the SM by hammering Proto, meaning that his action makes no sense since if he was the SM, it would reduce his chances of victory, and if he wasn't, then it would almost guarantee loss for him. This means that, if he had read my post, he either genuinely thought that Proto was the SM or he is the SM himself trying to make us think he is not the SM. Since Proto also believed that Crystal was the SM for following his votes, I will stick with Crystal being the SM and urge everyone else to vote for him. If I'm wrong, we lose anyway, but there's barely any other leads to go on.
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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 16:46:11 GMT
Ah, posts happened whilst I was typing. Thanks for voting for Crystal, Remi.
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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 16:47:46 GMT
Actually, the only reason why I am not able to vote is due to me being too late to open the page. I don't really check it regularly due to things that has been happening. Arya was regularly posting updates on the vote counts, but that doesn't mean you can't vote after she does. In fact, in this game, you can post and vote at any time.
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Post by A Certain Remilia on Dec 26, 2015 16:48:05 GMT
Ah, posts happened whilst I was typing. Thanks for voting for Crystal, Remi. I was going to fully explain everything hitting on why should I vote for Crys but ehhh I went too fast and didn't finish that one statement ; w ;
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Post by Crystal Clear on Dec 26, 2015 16:50:03 GMT
What I'm basically doing right now is to continue doing what Proto tried to, that's why I voted after him, it was cheap for me, yeah. I wasn't paying attention that much in the beginning, so I just voted what everyone else voted. Seems like I was wrong 3 times, if Tim isn't the shrine maiden, then he shouldn't vote for me. if he does and actually is the SM, he wins, so that's why I tell you to unvote for now before he comes and end the game.
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Post by relick on Dec 26, 2015 16:51:39 GMT
If Tim isn't the Shrine Maiden then he should vote for you because that means it's one of the other three that aren't him.
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